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    At this point people are asking "Why should new players do FATE when they can do other things?" is the WORST thing people ask. Elitists, I swear.

    People -WILL- do FATEs , if they are new players since they are amused by world events. And if you tell new players to "back off, new players shouldn't do FATE and should do something else to do for their time", it's like saying "go away. You shouldn't have your own fun time to do something because we have to do it for our own advantage".

    This is a game where EVERYONE is allowed to try something for a change. This isn't a game for 50s. No new players should deserve to be doing something different because of us veteran players hunting for stupid items.
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldotsk View Post
    This is a game where EVERYONE is allowed to try something for a change. This isn't a game for 50s. No new players should deserve to be doing something different because of us veteran players hunting for stupid items.
    This isn't a game for sub-20s either by that argument.

    A smart player will either find a way to get the best out of an over-camped area, or find another place to camp.

    Logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    This isn't a game for sub-20s either by that argument.

    A smart player will either find a way to get the best out of an over-camped area, or find another place to camp.

    Logic.
    OR, 50s should not grief other low level and new players from leveling in FATEs. Since it's technically their zone prioritized comparing to high levels farming for Atmas. Your argument is absolutely invalid. "Smart player"? Excuse me? New players are never going to figure out which places will be -over camped- or -new camp- area. They try everything out at the first time in-game before they start googling stuff to know where to go. That's like saying you are reading strategy guide RIGHT before you start the game and trying to ruin your true game experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    This isn't a game for sub-20s either by that argument.

    A smart player will either find a way to get the best out of an over-camped area, or find another place to camp.

    Logic.
    Hey... buddy? you know ending a post with the word "logic" doesn't make what you said actually make sense... right? You're just parroting the same "low level content isn't for low level players" stupidity and adding in "they'll find something else to do!"
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    Last edited by Norondor; 04-07-2014 at 04:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norondor View Post
    Hey... buddy? you know ending a post with the word "logic" doesn't make what you said actually make sense... right? You're just parroting the same "low level content isn't for low level players" stupidity and adding in "they'll find something else to do!"

    Um... no. Notice i gave 2 options, either or. Option 1 was to find a way to adapt to the situation.

    Seeing that the only advantage fate farmers for atma has is "transit" (as they levelsync before they can deal damage), I already suggested that leveling players should hang out where the largest concentration of fate spawn points are. This can be easily determined by xivdb, for example. Then, they have fair odds of getting completion credit in that quadrant of the map.

    The busier the atma farmers are, the faster nearby fates will respawn. Doesn't sound bad to me.
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