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  1. #41
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    Tandy Thorne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Well, I don't agree with that, but this most likely is coloring your opinion of the fight. I feel the time given is way too strict (it's definitely not dodged "very comfortably")

    I think most people who think Titan is not bad or an ok fight are people who have not experienced the "Landslide was done casting well after I was out of it but I got hit anyway" syndrome or the "That weight was no where near me when it hit me!" because they either live close to their nearest node for net access or otherwise have no latency issues due to physical reasons. If you have never seen it, you have no reason to ever believe it is real, so I can see where they defend it from.
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  2. #42
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    Valentyne Laska
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recaldy View Post
    Shame because Levi EX is much easier. heh
    No... no he is not. If people cannot dodge weights of the land, bombs, and landslides on Titan Ex, they will be dieing nonstop on Leviathan, because they'll fail to dodge his charges or his bubbles, the former going off much faster than landslides and applying a debuff that makes healing harder. Not to mention they will probably run into those fear zones dropped by the adds and run off the platform uncontrollably as a result. I'd argue that unless a party is capable of farming titan EX (notice I'm saying "party" and not any given individual) they stand a very low chance of downing Leviathan Ex.
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    Last edited by Fendred; 04-06-2014 at 10:47 PM.

  3. #43
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    Azran Hayat
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    3x3 bombs are something most of the player base can not wrap their heads around, which is hilarious because its literally "walk one way, wait 2 seconds, walk back to original spot"
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  4. #44
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    Delferia Seule
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    I think the echo buff makes this fight significantly more accessible. After experiencing the post heart phase while buffed a couple times, our group was able to go in and quickly down the fight unbuffed. Also, try grouping with the same people if possible. Typically a group will slowly progress further and further in the fight. Jumping around between pugs means you'll probably run into several groups with fairly low experience. Find a halfway decent group and stick it out for the win!
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  5. #45
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post


    There is absolutely nothing about something like that that I'd call "trivial to dodge" but looking at who made this statement I'm not at all surprised that it was made.
    That's one of the easiest things to dodge.......lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    I wonder who does titan ex with DF... special those who claim it beeing easy?
    I have and cleared it in DF before - Thing is, the fight is easy, players make things more difficult than they truly are meaning the difficulty is not the fight itself.
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  6. #46
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    Fynlar Eira
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    That's one of the easiest things to dodge.......lol.
    No, it isn't. One of the easiest things to dodge is the very first Landslide in the fight.

    Wanton hyperbole does not really build you an effective argument, just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    No, it isn't. One of the easiest things to dodge is the very first Landslide in the fight.

    Wanton hyperbole does not really build you an effective argument, just saying.
    You say it's not 'trivial', yet it is indeed one of the easiest - Notice how I said "one of", it wasn't wanton hyperbole, it literally is one of the easiest mechanics to dodge in that fight, however I'll assume you can't dodge it? Otherwise no reason to state it was anywhere near an exaggeration when not only are the land slides fast enough that you can avoid the bombs, there's a few safe spots to begin with if you actually know the fight.

    Knowing the fight makes that one of the easiest mechanics to dodge.
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  8. #48
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    Yumi Umi
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    Titan extreme is only extreme in random pf/df groups.
    But the thing i hate the most is when bards die to plumes.
    Seriously. They have instant attacks and can move while doing it. So y is it they r usually the ones to die first!???
    Lol i had a few blm who out lived bards throughout the whole run.
    I guess ppl who aren't casters should learn the main principle of dpsing titan.
    We rather have you dodge and then attack as to attacking and then dodging will most likely get u killed.
    That little attack will probably not make much of a difference.
    But dying will make a huge difference lol.
    Some dps can't grasp that concept that dodging is more important.
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  9. #49
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    It isn't "one of the easiest", period. There are numerous other things in the fight that are much simpler.

    Also, I know how it's "supposed" to be dodged. That doesn't change the fact that it's something I have rarely seen the group get past unscathed (assuming we even make it to that point, which is rare in itself) and it doesn't change the fact that Landslides are not always aimed in the right directions to allow you to dodge it the proper way (again, everyone has to be on the same page and positioned right)

    I don't think you know what hyperbole even means, but you're certainly proficient in its use.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    It isn't "one of the easiest", period. There are numerous other things in the fight that are much simpler.
    So your issue seems to be you disagree on what is and isn't easy and tell anyone that doesn't agree with you they're exaggerating? I know what it means. You didn't answer my question:

    Are you not able to dodge anything in that phase? Is that why you don't feel it's an easy mechanic? Using your logic, Titan's cleave attack is also one of the easiest things to dodge because you don't even get hit by it unless you're a tank, well look at that, there's even easier mechanics to dodge than the first landslide!

    Face it, Titan Ex is an easy fight and the only difficulty of that fight are players or lag - Heavily scripted fights aren't really challenging once you learn the patterns.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    Titan extreme is only extreme in random pf/df groups.
    But the thing i hate the most is when bards die to plumes.
    Seriously. They have instant attacks and can move while doing it. So y is it they r usually the ones to die first!???
    Lol i had a few blm who out lived bards throughout the whole run.
    I guess ppl who aren't casters should learn the main principle of dpsing titan.
    We rather have you dodge and then attack as to attacking and then dodging will most likely get u killed.
    That little attack will probably not make much of a difference.
    But dying will make a huge difference lol.
    Some dps can't grasp that concept that dodging is more important.
    This lol, I think of all the DPS, Bards should be the least likely to die when unlike...basically every other DPS, they can move around like a headless chicken and not lose any DPS or combos (not that they have any.)

    If Bard was still designed as the 1.x version, I could understand their quick deaths since the combos in 1.x usually had to be at certain distances, but with the "stack" method, people tend to die if they were slow to react.
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    Last edited by Tupsi; 04-06-2014 at 11:56 PM.

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