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  1. #51
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    Kat_Manx's Avatar
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    Kat Fuzzington
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    Goblin
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    Archer Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Looking at the board, even the "retainer brought back" items are up for 800k-2.2million, no one is buying them because they're viewed as "overpriced." I said nothing about dirt cheap, and they are easy to come by, it's just at present time a lot of crafters weren't even fully melded in order to do so - However they are in no way wort 2-3million, for example, that sailor suit and dress? Yeah that's in no way worth multiple millions based on item acquisition.
    I don't know if any retainer has brought back a sailor suit, but it is widely known how to obtain items for it already and every server surely must have a 3-star weaver by now? So considering how easy that material is to get, that item DOES seem overpriced..on your server.
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  2. #52
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    Kinseykinz's Avatar
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    Isagael Rose
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    Sagittarius
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Merciless View Post
    And so would I. But the forums would explode in a rage. If you could get raid content without doing the actual raid then it cheapens it a bit. Just look at how many people complained about the echo buff and making old content more "casual".

    Three star crafted items are the crafters new t6-9, I don't even think people have been able to grow glazenuts yet so retainers are getting items we can't even attempt to make yet.
    Retainers HAVE already brought stuff back from T6-9....

    Oh and really, it's no big deal...if ANYTHING, it's actually helping the crafting market because now people know 'oh hey retainers are bringing back housing/rare etc items....maybe I can find a deal'. So more people are actually browsing the marketboards now, looking at the more 'pricy synths' and buying stuff at ALL prices. If your crap isn't selling, it's not because 'oh gee retainers can bring it back too' it's because 'I'm not paying that much for it/I can wait/I can craft it myself/screw it I don't need it'. The retainers however, made people curious enough to start looking for stuff they haven't been able to make/find on their own on the boards=sales all around (if priced right).
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    Last edited by Kinseykinz; 04-06-2014 at 04:55 AM.

  3. #53
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    Cons's Avatar
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    Larissa Blackheart
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    To me it doesnt matter if low level retainers bring back quality items now and again, this way you dont have to be a hardcore player to have a chance at getting one.

    This makes it an even playing field, if youre complaining about people who pay for extra retainers having a higher chance, well, they pay for them, as do I.

    I think it will bring the market to life again, also it is interesting seeing these items which have been added since the new patch.

    I have a level 50 CUL and cant even use a retainer for that class, am I complaining? Nope.

    As for why do low level retainers find nice things....

    Well they go on Ventures, nobody knows what they do, who they do it for etc

    At then end they get rewarded and in turn give us the reward for their hard work.

    Now lets Fantasise about all the crafters in the realm of FFXIV (NPC's) - Well maybe they make and give away items to our retainers for deeds, we mad at NPC giveaways now also?

    Be serious, nobody has a real advantage at this point, low level means EVERYONE has a chance at an interesting find, leave it alone

    EDIT: SE already stated that crafting had little to no relevance in this game and should be seen as a hobby/timekill
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    Last edited by Cons; 04-06-2014 at 05:07 AM.

  4. #54
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    Lemuria's Avatar
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mandudez View Post
    Yet another person that misses the point entirely. And thank you for having a sig showing me you don't have any level 50 crafts. You know that stuff that took you TIME to earn? Ya, they are giving that stuff away literally for free now. Any reason that we shouldn't be upset over time wasted?
    Just thought I'd have my 2 cents. I have all crafts levelled to 50 and I fully intend to attain mastery books for all of them (eventually). I have to ask why this bothers you so much? It's not a reliable method of earning anything, so it's not like there's suddenly a huge surge of items coming in. The steady trickle we are getting is actually benefitting us as much as anything else, as they can also bring in rare crafting materials such as mariner cotton or dress fabrics.

    You're welcome to bemoan whatever you want, but do avoid trying to speak for crafters in general. Many of us are perfectly happy with this.
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  5. #55
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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Senah Kha
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 90
    You're just hearing a lot about cool stuff because it's cool and of course people are going to post about it. However, most of the time the retainers bring back mundane things and no one posts because they are mundane. You don't post on Facebook every week when you get paid, but if you won a mil from the lottery you would. And if other people did, they would be posting it too. That doesn't mean that everyone is winning the lottery; it's just seems like it because people are being vocal about it.
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  6. #56
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    Cid_Grim's Avatar
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    Aeron Grim
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merciless View Post
    And so would I. But the forums would explode in a rage. If you could get raid content without doing the actual raid then it cheapens it a bit. Just look at how many people complained about the echo buff and making old content more "casual".

    Three star crafted items are the crafters new t6-9, I don't even think people have been able to grow glazenuts yet so retainers are getting items we can't even attempt to make yet.
    In all honesty, the forums explode in a rage over just about anything, including, but not limited to, the boob size of Lalafell females.

    On topic, I personally think it's pretty cool.
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  7. #57
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    Mide Uyagir
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    OP, I think you're overreacting to something that is not actually happening very often at all. I tried the quick venture thing numerous times and received nothing but trash.
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  8. #58
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    ReplicaX's Avatar
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    Methos Ranperre
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    Jenova
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Merciless View Post
    So I'm sure everyone has seen the posts about retainers bringing back roofs, ilvl 70 gear, and primal weapons already so I'll skip linking to them.
    I've done over 50 Quick Ventures and have nothing to show for it but fish, cheap furniture items, etc. It is all RNG. Just because you see a thread with primal, ilvl70, blah blah blah. It was all based on luck/RNG.

    The system is fine. Find another inconsequential thing to complain about.
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  9. #59
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    Gormogon Maxwell
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by kristerrr86 View Post
    Why does it bother you?
    I think it probably has to do with how god damn awesome the retainers is compared to him.

    I mean I'd sure feel emasculated if the retainer brought me back ilvl100+ gear when my average ilvl is 90.
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  10. #60
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    Makono Makan
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merciless View Post
    We were told they can bring back items unique to retainer ventures, but it seems like that's only because they can bring back almost any item in the entire game database that isn't blue or purple whether it has been released yet or not.
    The unique items from ventures is completely different from what you're complaining about. Unique items can only come from the 18-hour ventures. Quick ventures are the random things. If you're going to complain, please complain correctly.
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