Which Primals do you want to see?

[Xeak]

Light and dark aren't elements in this game.

Astral and Umbral are polarities applied to the elements .=.

EDIT: But that could let us have 2 summons for each element An astral and an umbral.

I didn't know that about the astral and umbral ... but that would definitely be pretty cool to have 2 different Primal summons per each element.

[SuzakuCMX]

I didn't know that about the astral and umbral ... but that would definitely be pretty cool to have 2 different Primal summons per each element.

Most people don't because you have to read some lore to find it (it's in the books at the THM/CON guilds >.>)

[Synapse]

Light and dark aren't elements in this game.

Astral and Umbral are polarities applied to the elements .=.

EDIT: But that could let us have 2 summons for each element An astral and an umbral.

True, Umbral controls Earth, Ice, Water? and Astral controls Fire Wnd and Lightning? Sry going off with the FFXI facts.

what do make of Banish and Scourge? i mean they are spell, and they do type of dark and light magic dmg.
imo even tho Umbral and Astral the two top magic, i think they do have their own elemental as well as the 3 other elemntal they each control, some sort of modifier.

[Perrin_Aybarra]

True, Umbral controls Earth, Ice, Water? and Astral controls Fire Wnd and Lightning? Sry going off with the FFXI facts.

what do make of Banish and Scourge? i mean they are spell, and they do type of dark and light magic dmg.
imo even tho Umbral and Astral the two top magic, i think they do have their own elemental as well as the 3 other elemntal they each control, some sort of modifier.

No, there are Umbral and Astral aspect within each elements.

Furthermore, on the twelve guardians, there are 2 for each elements, 1 umbral and one astral.

[SuzakuCMX]

True, Umbral controls Earth, Ice, Water? and Astral controls Fire Wnd and Lightning? Sry going off with the FFXI facts.

what do make of Banish and Scourge? i mean they are spell, and they do type of dark and light magic dmg.
imo even tho Umbral and Astral the two top magic, i think they do have their own elemental as well as the 3 other elemntal they each control, some sort of modifier.

No. As far as stats go 3 of the elementals increase Astral resistance/damage and the other 3 increase Umbral resistance/damage, but they are their own damage type.

Banish and Scourge do Umbral or Astral damage, not light/dark. And each element can be Astral or Umbral, not only 3 can be one or the other.

[Archadius]

True, Umbral controls Earth, Ice, Water? and Astral controls Fire Wnd and Lightning? Sry going off with the FFXI facts.

what do make of Banish and Scourge? i mean they are spell, and they do type of dark and light magic dmg.
imo even tho Umbral and Astral the two top magic, i think they do have their own elemental as well as the 3 other elemntal they each control, some sort of modifier.

Banish and Scourge are actually made up of 33% (equal parts) damage of the 3 elements that Astral (Banish) or Umbral (Scourge) governs.

[Perrin_Aybarra]

Banish and Scourge are actually made up of 33% (equal parts) damage of the 3 elements that Astral (Banish) or Umbral (Scourge) governs.

But Astral and Umbral each govern the 6 elements, so that doesn't work.

[Synapse]

Banish and Scourge are actually made up of 33% (equal parts) damage of the 3 elements that Astral (Banish) or Umbral (Scourge) governs.

Wouldn't it be better to say Astral/Umbral have effect on their 3 elemental instead of the other way around? If what your saying is true, that means increasing my fire/wind/lightning mag potency should increase my astral dmg of banish?

edit: someone beat me to that fact.

[Xeak]

Lol Reinheart XD

[Archadius]

On Siren:

I think it's much like Doom Train or Cuchulain that are non-elemental (unless you consider bad-status inflicting an element).