So is this normal everyday thing?

[o3o]

Lol now he gets to spend his time waiting till he can que again

[MurakumoMillennium]

"hmm, there's a lvl 48 here, if I wanted to speed run this I would of done it by now"

Skipping trash that is out of the way and not on or even near the path to your objective = NOT a speed run. Skipping optional trash is just being smart, especially in a dungeon like that where a lot of groups have issues with time to begin with.

Also, for the people who think the point of a dungeon is to kill everything in sight and to go looking for unnecessary fights:

[Elvin]

You are nice tank and all that...

Maybe you intention was good, but with a lvl 48 and 3 other 50, you were making a favour to the level 48 making the other 2 lvls 50 spend more time there than the necesary. Or, to said it plain, you were being nice to 1 guy and been mean to 2 guys. That's not nice of you!


And yeah, of course you can say "It's jsut a game", but them again you are imposing your way to them.


Not a great problem, of course, but doing that and think that you are nice cause you help the lower level making the other 2 guys do what you want it's a bit...weird. Level shoudn't matter, there's people behind all characters :P

You are exactly like that bard, imposing your way of do it, but with tank power (More important to finish the dungeon)

[Shug]

You are nice tank and all that...

Maybe you intention was good, but with a lvl 48 and 3 other 50, you were making a favour to the level 48 making the other 2 lvls 50 spend more time there than the necesary. Or, to said it plain, you were being nice to 1 guy and been mean to 2 guys. That's not nice of you!

The dungeon is a lvl 48 dungeon. So why wouldn't he cater to the lvl 48 guy? You want to do it quick, thats what PF is for. You go DF or roulette, help out the new guys. Thats what it is for, to help out the newer players, not just run through it to get your bonus.

[Issac]

The dungeon is a lvl 48 dungeon. So why wouldn't he cater to the lvl 48 guy? You want to do it quick, thats what PF is for. You go DF or roulette, help out the new guys. Thats what it is for, to help out the newer players, not just run through it to get your bonus.

Kinda have to agree with this. I would assume the lowbie wants exp until said person says they don't.
Some of the dissenting attitudes in this thread jerk me a bit, but everyone's got an opinion.

[Dsync]

You are nice tank and all that...

Maybe you intention was good, but with a lvl 48 and 3 other 50, you were making a favour to the level 48 making the other 2 lvls 50 spend more time there than the necesary. Or, to said it plain, you were being nice to 1 guy and been mean to 2 guys. That's not nice of you!

You could say that he was also doing something that made himself feel good/nice. So 2/2.

[Synra]

I can feel either way on this, depending on what class I am playing, what level, which dungeon and other factors.

In the right situation, I would prefer my team clear the whole dungeon for Exp purposes. If I am level 28 and in Haukke Mannor, then there's no reason not to clear everything. You are forced to kill about 95% of the enemies anyway.

In other cases, I just want the dungeon over as fast as possible. Toto-Rak for example is stupidly long, and you only need to kill about 50% of the enemies to reach the last boss. Clearing the whole thing can easily feel like a waste of everyone's time.

In the case described above, Aurum Vale is one of the least loved dungeons in the entire game. If you can get your team through the bosses at all, you are doing good. And if there's only one person in the group who is proper level for that dungeon, don't presume that you should clear the whole place unless that person asks nicely for it.

[Sylve]

In the case described above, Aurum Vale is one of the least loved dungeons in the entire game. If you can get your team through the bosses at all, you are doing good. And if there's only one person in the group who is proper level for that dungeon, don't presume that you should clear the whole place unless that person asks nicely for it.

I happen to enjoy AV, and i also enjoy teaching people how to get through it without a hassle. Unfortunately, most people would prefer to ragequit at Coincounter rather than teach/learn the mechanics.

[Gethyn]

Which is hilarious, because there are no longer slugs in there.

/1.0 Coincounter traumatized

To OP, sounds like you did a nice thing. It's a bummer that guy had to be like that.

[GerMagic]

I guess it's a depending on the people you end up with. I don't mind the following:

- Clearing every mob if someone has an advantage through that (for instance if I get downleveled and see everyone in this Tam-Tara is Lv25+ I won't do all the trash) if he asks politely (I've had random people pull groups all over the place shouting "NEED EXP!!!")

- Waiting for new people that watch Cutscenes

- Explaining Content

What I do have a problem with is
- if people are genuinely slowing down a run (like when I'm not tanking and a tank waits like 30s before each pull)
- people afking more than once and especially without notice
- people iddling around (for example I had a low level dungeon lately, for the funsies, and the healer was a SCH, didn't need to heal me even once, but also didn't ever use any dps-skill, just afking the dungeon and even following me via auto-follow... come on guys...)


So technically the OP should probably have asked if the low-level wanted to clear everything and if the group is fine with that etc.


On a different note I have to admit I'm not rushing too badly. If I egt asked to speedrun WP I'll do it, but I generally prefer talkative groups that go through a bit more laid back (not as in super-slow, but if there happens to be something funny you talk for a minute without someone flaming "PULL OMG!"^^)