Subscription Refundable?

[PyroElf]

Grinding in an MMO? that NEVER happens!

[Chichicha]

Don't get it wrong.
Grind in game is find, when the result can be expected.
Example
FFXI - I grind for years to obtained my first relic. This is acceptable because you can expect the drops from monsters to drop you required currencies and item. Plus the content for you to grind involve friends to do it together, and challenging.

FFXIV - FATE solo grind or party, no need to think, button smashing, run around no challenge, random super rare drop.

[ReiszRie]

Don't get it wrong.
Grind in game is find, when the result can be expected.
Example
FFXI - I grind for years to obtained my first relic. This is acceptable because you can expect the drops from monsters to drop you required currencies and item. Plus the content for you to grind involve friends to do it together, and challenging.

FFXIV - FATE solo grind or party, no need to think, button smashing, run around no challenge, random super rare drop.

So your thread is a bait topic for you to lash out on why you think Atma FATE grind sucks, even though its exactly the same as the other 1001 threads already out there.

You seem to be hard up for attention.

[Kirosuu]

Don't get it wrong.
Grind in game is find, when the result can be expected.
Example
FFXI - I grind for years to obtained my first relic. This is acceptable because you can expect the drops from monsters to drop you required currencies and item. Plus the content for you to grind involve friends to do it together, and challenging.

FFXIV - FATE solo grind or party, no need to think, button smashing, run around no challenge, random super rare drop.

soooooooo grind boss with rng=/=grind fate with rng?
join with party =/= join with friend?
grind for a year > grind less a month then drop rate get buff future patch?

now this is great way to seek attention

[YmirEsc]

Not like there's actual content aside from ATMA or anything.
I agree that this thread is just an attempt to lash out at part of the game you don't like, as literally no game has ever refunded for subscriptions.
Seems like your first MMO to me.

[Kiara1]

You don't have to do Atma or fate grind.

Make the game what you want it to be.
I got 2 atma, Randomly doing dailies.
80 of the new tombstone

I'm not in a rush to get everything done today.
within 3 months. I will have 90% of this patch and all content before 2.2 done. I'm personally happy with that pass.


You already have all jobs at 50, Maybe you need more then 1 character.
Or
You need a game that has 5+ years of content behind it.

This guy knows how to play this game^
Most people are too impatient

[Yuichi]

Grinding in an MMO? that NEVER happens!

Thats blasphemy now a days in an mmo the min I hit max level I should have all the gear sent to me. lol