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[Chichicha]

Don't get it wrong.
Grind in game is find, when the result can be expected.
Example
FFXI - I grind for years to obtained my first relic. This is acceptable because you can expect the drops from monsters to drop you required currencies and item. Plus the content for you to grind involve friends to do it together, and challenging.

FFXIV - FATE solo grind or party, no need to think, button smashing, run around no challenge, random super rare drop.

[ReiszRie]

Don't get it wrong.
Grind in game is find, when the result can be expected.
Example
FFXI - I grind for years to obtained my first relic. This is acceptable because you can expect the drops from monsters to drop you required currencies and item. Plus the content for you to grind involve friends to do it together, and challenging.

FFXIV - FATE solo grind or party, no need to think, button smashing, run around no challenge, random super rare drop.

So your thread is a bait topic for you to lash out on why you think Atma FATE grind sucks, even though its exactly the same as the other 1001 threads already out there.

You seem to be hard up for attention.

[Kirosuu]

Don't get it wrong.
Grind in game is find, when the result can be expected.
Example
FFXI - I grind for years to obtained my first relic. This is acceptable because you can expect the drops from monsters to drop you required currencies and item. Plus the content for you to grind involve friends to do it together, and challenging.

FFXIV - FATE solo grind or party, no need to think, button smashing, run around no challenge, random super rare drop.

soooooooo grind boss with rng=/=grind fate with rng?
join with party =/= join with friend?
grind for a year > grind less a month then drop rate get buff future patch?

now this is great way to seek attention