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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    That's a weird way of thinking, considering that people complaining on this forum are the only ones in the world that actually give a sh*t about this game... so if us that belived in SE and in FF14 at the point of waiting for a year won't be satisfied I really doubt that anyone else would ever be.
    Actually I know a lot of people who are playing this game and avoid these forums, especially General, like the plague. They don't want to deal with all the complaining and the whining. The trolling and the flame wars. Sometimes it's just not worth it for the few decent posts you'll get that might discuss something. A lot of the people who are on these forums a lot admit themselves that they don't play much if at all anymore.

    At any rate I know for a fact no matter what this patch contains there will be rivers of tears and raging tempers on these forums. Not much Yoshida or anyone else can do about it, some people will never be happy no matter what we get.

    Personally I'm just trying to be positive and have a little hope for this game. I trust the dev team and I'm sure they'll make the right decision. I don't always like the decisions they make but I get over it. I like the general direction the game is going in so I can deal with a few decisions I personally don't like.

    Has it been a long time? Yes and it's been delayed a few times. Nothing I can personally do about it though, it'll get here when it gets here. Not even all the whining in the world could even change it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Has it been a long time? Yes and it's been delayed a few times. Nothing I can personally do about it though, it'll get here when it gets here. Not even all the whining in the world could even change it.
    And you're absolutely right in saying that, but don't you also think that if everyone just stopped posting and never told the devs and the company how dissapointed they are it'd be fine? You don't think we have a right to complain about the broken promises, the pointless schedules and the utter lack of communication?

    Don't get me wrong I tire myself from complaining sometimes, but there are days like this where I'd do anything to just tell a dev directly how dissapointed I am and I think I would be speaking for a lot of people in doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    You say that like posting on the forums somehow slows him down.
    While it may not 'slow him down' maybe you should give the guy a break?

    Quote Originally Posted by Colino
    This one was just utter disappointment though. It's also crazy how he says July 21st as if this was the best date possible and manages to slip in another delay of a couple of days like it's never been delayed before.
    Delays are, unfortunately, sometimes nessecary, and inevitable. Not just in video game making, but everywhere.

    People are crying in this thread because he covered his bases and said "July 21st. OR, depending on if we think it needs more balancing, the 22nd. Probably. Maybe the 23rd."

    Instead of "July 21st. Definately. No more delays. This patch." And if it got delayed mass hysteria on the forums.

    You need to learn to chill out.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    To certain individuals. If it is so disappointing by all means quit and don't come back, you'll be doing yourself and everyone else a favor because you're not helping. With that said, the dev letter explained very clearly bugs needs to be tested before implementation, every other letter feeds us vital information about what we asked for regarding this patch and beyond. We asked for a date and we got one. Yet some people still feel itchy enough to complain. You know who you are, no need to reply.
    Oh no don't tell them that! They might actually do it! Where would we be without all the people who hate the game? Where would we be without all the whining and complaining about nothing?

    Seriously, if someone doesn't like a game what do they do? They stop playing it. It's really only logical if you desire to have fun while gaming. Find a game you do like and play that. FFXIV will in time reach a finished state. At that point the game should be judged on it's own merits and if enough people like it it will stick around. If you like it keep playing it. If you don't like it then stop playing it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    And you're absolutely right in saying that, but don't you also think that if everyone just stopped posting and never told the devs and the company how dissapointed they are it'd be fine? You don't think we have a right to complain about the broken promises, the pointless schedules and the utter lack of communication?
    Personally I'm more of a constructive criticism kind of guy. Problems do need to be pointed out of course but one can do it in a constructive manner without complaining too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forerunner View Post
    While it may not 'slow him down' maybe you should give the guy a break?
    I can guarantee you 100% he's not reading any of this and thus I find no need to "give the guy a break". It's not like he's spending his days weeping in sorrow because some people on the internet don't like him or what he's doing. You say that like I'm personally attacking him or something, when I've never even mentioned him directly in any of my complaints (that I remember of).

    Quote Originally Posted by Forerunner View Post
    Instead of "July 21st. Definately. No more delays. This patch." And if it got delayed mass hysteria on the forums.
    There would be mass hysteria regardless, I can guarantee you that. I'm not complaining over that couple of days part, I thought that was clear enough but I guess not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Forerunner View Post
    You need to learn to chill out.
    And you need to learn that I'm an adult and I don't need life advice from you. I'm perfectly chill, but thanks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Personally I'm more of a constructive criticism kind of guy. Problems do need to be pointed out of course but one can do it in a constructive manner without complaining too much.
    The problem with that is that "constructive criticism" so far has gone straight over their heads and has gotten nothing but responses like "we'll look into it".

    And for the record, I play the game and I like the game. In fact I can guarantee you the majority of the people that complain here still play it a lot, in hopes that it'll get better. I know I do. It's also fairly ironic I play the game way more than these guys attacking me and telling me to chill out. It's really funny in fact. (Not talking about you obviously)
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    Last edited by Colino; 07-08-2011 at 10:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forerunner View Post
    While it may not 'slow him down' maybe you should give the guy a break?
    I'll give him a break when he starts doing this as a charity instead of being a paid employee.
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    I like the big "fuck you" to all the babies that are whining about the word raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forerunner View Post
    While it may not 'slow him down' maybe you should give the guy a break?



    Delays are, unfortunately, sometimes nessecary, and inevitable. Not just in video game making, but everywhere.

    People are crying in this thread because he covered his bases and said "July 21st. OR, depending on if we think it needs more balancing, the 22nd. Probably. Maybe the 23rd."

    Instead of "July 21st. Definately. No more delays. This patch." And if it got delayed mass hysteria on the forums.

    You need to learn to chill out.
    I agree, though I don't think Colino is complaining as much as others in this thread, but just saying that people have a right to complain, which is also right.

    The only issue I take with it is that people will complain about EVERYTHING. Delays happen in the video game market everyday. The only difference here is that SE is keeping their servers live while they test and implement new content. People have this funny idea that Yoshi-P and the developers are sitting on their hands or twiddling their thumbs or something, which is positively absurd.

    Regardless of how fast ANYONE thinks the dev team SHOULD be working, the fact of the matter is they are working as fast as they can with the resources they have been given. If you doubt that, then you really don't know much about the corporate world. Being that the launch was a fiscal failure for the company and that one dev team has already been swapped out shows that the company is serious about fixing this game. If not, why not scrap it all together? On top of that, with the project already off to a bad start, I guarantee that the higher ups are looking for marked progress.

    The team is doing the best they can as fast as they can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    I agree, though I don't think Colino is complaining as much as others in this thread, but just saying that people have a right to complain, which is also right.
    Thank you for understanding the English language.

    Quote Originally Posted by Demacia View Post
    I like the big "fuck you" to all the babies that are whining about the word raid.
    I do agree with that part. Seriously I have never seen so many people complain about something as pointless as the definition of a videogame term in a videogame because it's not identical to the definition of the videogame term in that other videogame that's really popular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    I'm not the one to be elitist over in-game levels but please, it's pretty funny how most overly-defensive posts are from people who's highest job is under 30, which clearly means they haven't been playing the game long enough to understand where me and some others are coming from.

    With that being sad I will quote Alcide in saying that the reason we are so fierce about our opinions is because we care about the game. Kind of like how your guys' moms disconnect your PC after you've been playing too many videogames.
    Actually, it more likely just means some people, like myself, are in no rush to get to 50. Partially because we're very aware there's nothing to do when you get there.

    Also, I am the mom that would disconnect your PC when you've been playing too many video games. Patience child.


    Anyway,

    The devs have been very clear about what will be in this patch, so if one's expectations are too high, you can only blame yourself.

    I would also be expecting lines at these "raids" like a new ride at Busch Gardens. The population is low, so there might not be lines, but better to expect the worst.
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    Last edited by Chezen; 07-08-2011 at 10:58 PM.


    Quote Originally Posted by Serio View Post
    Yoshi-P starts casting Sleepga IV on Yoshi-P.
    Yoshi-P is asleep.
    The Troll hits Yoshi-P for 9000 damage!
    Yoshi-P is no longer asleep!

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