Lost motivation..

[Daenerys_Sedai]

Ya right now I'm waiting for 2.3 or 2.4 since those are the patches that will most likely nerf Atma RNG

This

2.4 is when the 4th tier Tomes is released and soldiery replaces myth

Did they announce this somewhere?

[Heat]

I couldn’t do titan ex tried with my static (that brock today but that’s a different story) tried in DF over 100 times, I’m not the problem but the groups that I get in are, so the rest of the primal is locked for me.
Same goes for T6 since we didn’t win T5.
I wish I could do the relic books, that will keep me playing for a long time but ATMA farming killed it for me (over 860 fates and only got 6).
Can’t farm more than 450 soldiery.

This patch added lots of content yet most of them are locked to me.

So its back to nothing to do other than farming soldiery once a week since I have full ilvl 90, and all my classes are 50 even crafting and I don’t need gill since I played from 1.0.

Do I see myself continue playing this game? I don’t think so.

[Jinko]

You aren't alone on the atma grinding, though honestly I'm more annoyed with the locking out of Turn 6+ in coil if someone hasn't completed turn 5, much like how they did the same thing last patch with the primal fights. I've cleared every primal EX from 2.1 and there is no practical reason why someone needs to wait on Garuda to go fight Titan or Ifrit, and the problem is going to get worse now that they've thrown in Leviathan and King Moogle Mog extremes, requiring people to have cleared ifrit just to try them out.

If players are at end game and geared enough, just let the players do what they want to do, with who they want to do it with. Why is this such a hard thing to understand?!

Stress, by the power of the squishy stress relief hand ball I banish thee!

I agree with the coil lock out, but not so much the primal ones.

Some attunement and progression road blocks give you a sense of accomplishment IMO.

[EdwinLi]

Did they announce this somewhere?

It is just a assumption since Coil 3 is in 2.4 (which will hold Ilvl 130 gear).

With Coil 3 arrives the ilvl 130 Coil Gears and the ilvl 120 tome gears which will most likely cost tier 4 tomes.

[Themis]

You aren't alone on the atma grinding, though honestly I'm more annoyed with the locking out of Turn 6+ in coil if someone hasn't completed turn 5, much like how they did the same thing last patch with the primal fights. I've cleared every primal EX from 2.1 and there is no practical reason why someone needs to wait on Garuda to go fight Titan or Ifrit, and the problem is going to get worse now that they've thrown in Leviathan and King Moogle Mog extremes, requiring people to have cleared ifrit just to try them out.

The Coil lockout, requiring you to complete the First Coil before the Second Coil, makes perfect sense because there is a story progression that goes with it. Really, there should be a requirement to have to complete each in order before being able to move on, but there isn't much story between them to be that bothered. Just like how you have to complete the main story to get into end game, and not simply skip it, hit lv50 and just jump straight into end game.

Primal EXs are likely requiring previous defeats because there is an increase in difficulty and level requirement. Just like with the HM, it's about progression. Having access to Levi/Moogle Ex immediately, would more than likely render Garuda/Titan/Ifrit Ex pointless. There's at least some reason to actually do the fights, even if only once.

In both cases, the key word is "progression".

[Wicc]

- Echo buff.
This is something that I really hate, and it pisses me off to the brim of breaking keyboards and throwing headsets. If you can't make a dungeon or trial, then get better items! Don't give people a freakin handicap for being too low lvl! Gaining more than 1k hp per wipe??? That is so far beyond joke, it's a slap in the face to the players and it ruins the sense of skill required to play this game!

~R1dder

Funny. Last I checked, you could take it off. Besides, some people have good gear and have latency issues, so the few ticks of extra hp helps when plumes make your computer lag.

Let me guess, you are going to tell me to buy a computer. Tell me how to make an extra 600 bucks appear out of thin air and I'll do it :]

If not, then..

[Shug]

I browsed the japanese forums, and they are feeling the exact same way as we are on the Atma farming, so I expect them to change it soon. Just put that part off and wait till they change it.

[joshsecret]

this game is what it is. and i am completely bored.

[charlemagne]

I don't have a problem at all with the atma farming. I chose not to make grinding them my main focus for now, they are just something I do for half an hour or so here and there. If I only have a short time to play or I'm waiting for df to pop I'll do a few fates. There is enough content in the game that we can vary what we do, so it is only grindy if we make it grindy for ourselves. I can gather, I can craft, I can run one of many dungeons, do primals, help other people out, play with the venture system, change my hair, make materias go boom, pvp, do the manderville. I can do loads of stuff to just plain have fun with other players. If the game is a grind for you, it's because you're making it one, not SE.

[Colt47]

I agree with the coil lock out, but not so much the primal ones.

Some attunement and progression road blocks give you a sense of accomplishment IMO.

The accomplishment is completing the primal challenge quest and getting a weapon awarded, though. The lock outs are sort of arbitrary: Even the cutscenes could be remixed in any particular order for the first three primals. I'm not so sure about leviathan and King Moogle Mog as I haven't gotten to trying them out yet.