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  1. #111
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    skaterger's Avatar
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    Joanna Selenia
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    Tonberry
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    My unpopular opinion: Any half decent dps that wants to improve should have their own parser running when running serious content. Statics/fc runs needs to always have a parser running to identify potential weak links/areas of improvements. But I would never use a parser to belittle/point out a stranger's dps in a pug run/df/pf. If it's really bad, I'll just leave and suck up the 30 min debuff.

    My unpopular opinion 2: Any half decent dps that wants to improve would actually be happy if someone points out that they are not playing to their full potential/could do better/doing low dps. Its often hard to see one's own mistakes, and having others point it out to you can be a great help.
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  2. #112
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    Massterchef's Avatar
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    Zetsu Tei
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 55
    People are still gonna use parsers regardless the consequences

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  3. #113
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    Volkai's Avatar
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    Kaiyalai Stacianodel
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    Mateus
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    Sage Lv 90
    The real question is why were parsers broken out as their own individually mentioned thing, when they were already covered by the ban on third-party software?
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    Kindness, Curiosity, Steadfastness.

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  4. #114
    Player MurakumoMillennium's Avatar
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    Murakumo Millennium
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    Leviathan
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    Miner Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Most kept their mouth shut about using a windower but yes SE did have some rounds of banning people for using it.
    For using windower? No. For using some of the extra plugins that came with it? Yes.
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  5. #115
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    Cloudcroft Ieyasu
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by BamDeafPie View Post
    Then how can we know and improve our dps that phasers are banned? Thanks a lot se. You have added a new reason to my list of reasons why I unsubbing.
    lolwut, that sux kthxbai.
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  6. #116
    Player ceiimq's Avatar
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    Sasaro Levantera
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    Omega
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    Arcanist Lv 94
    I really want to say something but... so much stupid in here.

    Nothing has changed. Parse your FC runs so you can actually, you know, improve and kill stuff fast enough. Leave other players alone.
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  7. #117
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    KarstenS's Avatar
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    to conduct actions players would not normally be able to do in the game
    to play the game smoothly (something some people are unable to do without a vpn)..
    No. VPN service give you no abilities, that other players would not normally be able to do in the game. It give you only the chance to get a good internet route like other players have out of the box. As of the nature how it works, you will not be equal or better. But you get close enough to play the content like it should be played.
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  9. #118
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    Abzoluut Abzoluut
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    Odin
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kamahil View Post
    You must be a parser user since you defend them.
    You must be the guy people "harass" because your dps is low. xD

    On a more serious note. I don't mind having no way to track dps. However, I would not mind if SE implements it's own parser. To me it adds to the game. It's fun to have dps races and it also doesn't hurt to track dps to progress. I think SE is afraid of their own community not being able to handle an ingame dps tracker. Well SE, try to punish harder and make it public. 24 people suspended, no one knows what server, who they are. It's like aallll the RMT guys they banned and gil they confiscated. Yeah right...

    Don't blame parsers for people's behaviour. It's people their decency we should be worried about. Would you also not sell popcorn in a cinema because people throw it at each other? Sell it, punish it if they misbehave.
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  10. #119
    I think SE is more about how certain people cleaned t8 by breaking mechanics with third party programs, more than just sayin "hey parses are what get you banned"

    Don't remember readin anyone gettin banned for postin videos where you clearly can see ingame parsing.

    The high end do not wish to be caught up with the low or middle end players.
    Yes because I did a ton of efforts to get up there and sometimes, well you know, you just don't want to "stick" to that.
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    Last edited by Sygmaelle; 04-04-2014 at 05:40 PM.

  11. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by abzoluut View Post
    Don't blame parsers for people's behaviour. It's people their decency we should be worried about. Would you also not sell popcorn in a cinema because people throw it at each other? Sell it, punish it if they misbehave.
    This. I HATE parsers because people's behaviour. i don't need my parsers to test my skills as Monk (hate list helps me sometimes to see if i'm doing good/bad with my party) and i find silly that "we wiped because you did 289 instead 290". If a party fails by so few margin it means they're not really prepared (of course, if my dps should be around 200 and i'm doing 50, thats bad, but then it should be obvious since i'll be 8th on hate list).

    My "best" dps experience by far was at the beginning of 2.0, joining a random duty finder for Garuda HM. One of the blms said "less than X dps and i'll leave". He wiped in the first jump and got kicked. Felt SO god...


    P.D: Parsers are ilegal since the beginning and more than one GM said it, but it won't be a "witch hunt" for everyone who uses parsers. Like Sygmaelle said, they're more concerned about game-breaking mechanics
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