Echo Buff and Duty Roulette (Trials)

[Clavaat]

btw, does the Echo buff apply to the extremes as well?

Yes, but not a heavily. Instead of increasing by stacks of 10% (max 50%) it stacks in increments of 5% (max 25%).

[BloodPact]

btw, does the Echo buff apply to the extremes as well?

The older extremes do give the buff, though the buff received is not as substantial as the one you get for lower tier content. I think Hard Modes gave about a 50% buff and the Extreme Modes give 25%. Something like that. The new trails and raid (Leviathan Hard and Extreme, Thornmarch Extreme and The Second Coil of Bahamut) don't apply, for obvious reasons.

[Lord_Zlatan]

that riff

that riff (f•ckin love it) is the reason (I'm sure of it) that new people die immediately after heart... drives people nuts!

[Xanros]

So I got my third relic the other day. Having rolled dps before, it was my first time tanking the HM primals. Each time, I was either the only one or one of two members that had done Hm primals before.... the echo buff helpled out a lot.

After finally killing Titan, I was thanked for the carry..

I think the echo buff is a good thing. I hate when it's needed but it does help a lot.

[Synapse]

On the side note, can someone say what are the requirement for Duty Roulette trials? I still see it locked.

I finished stories mission, finished Leviathan... finished all new dungeons...

what the heck am i missing?

[Timethiuas]

On the side note, can someone say what are the requirement for Duty Roulette trials? I still see it locked.

I finished stories mission, finished Leviathan... finished all new dungeons...

what the heck am i missing?

Did you do the Bridge Quest with Gilgamesh?

[Synapse]

Did you do the Bridge Quest with Gilgamesh?

/facepalm....

Thanks... i forgot about that. Never thought Hildbrande story line would merge with DF.

[Rbstr]

I'm a fan of it and think it was a good idea. Especially in the HM roulette trials where you've rouletted and the experienced ones can simply put on some sunglasses and deal with it after a couple wipes.
In the EX trials is certainly doesn't replace learning the fight. Titan remains all about the dodging. Buffs don't help if you fall off a platform. Apparently echo can drive Titan EX's phases too quickly and fubar a run.

So you may help some bads get through the content. The fact remains they'll still get stuck at "current" content and won't get through maintaining one's feelings of superiority. Or they are good and were just stuck with crap parties and now you've got a new potential static member. Yay.

[NyneAlexander]

Yea my only real beef with it is it screws up the timings of everything that we're used to. Phases get pushed in a weird way that causes things like jails happening during a jump phase. Or you accidentally cause Ifrit to push past 5% and wipe the party during nails. It also creates a false reality where people think that they're ready for Leviathan ex because they finally beat old primals.

[SamuraiBlaze]

During roulette just like the op we wiped to the 30% buff. On our last try we were down to me, the 2 tanks and 1 healer. The healer lagged and got hit by a landslide followed by the MT. The OT who was new picked him up and lasted long enough to for me to LB. Thumbs up for me also for my 2nd relic and the epic story.