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  1. #691
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    Obysuca's Avatar
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    Ayaminae Yirien
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caoihmin View Post
    Pursue your passions, but always know that there is someone out there, somewhere, who has attained your level of excellence in a fraction of the time because they were BORN to do that.
    ^ This. I can't tell you how many times I've come across really great artists to find out they've only been drawing for 1/8th the time I have, yet they're 30 times better :/
    It's actually kind of frustrating, especially when you see these people who go from crap to amazing in ~2 years, while you've been at it for about 16 years and aren't even half as good lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Caoihmin View Post
    but to tell someone with tone deafness that they can be the next Andre Bocelli if they work hard enough is cruel and indicative of a culture that portrays humankind like the Special Olympics. Sorry, not everybody wins.
    >_> Not going to lie, part of me wants to be all negative and tell people the truth that chances are, even with hard work, they'll never be extremely good. But apparently telling people the truth and hurting their feelings / crushing their dreams is frowned upon lol
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    Last edited by Obysuca; 03-23-2015 at 05:12 PM.

  2. #692
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caoihmin View Post
    Your original sentiment was that no one is innately born with the ability to create.
    [...].
    And I will stand by the statement. No one pops out of the womb with the ability to craft masterpieces any more than they have the ability to dance Swan Lake.
    Some people will have an easier road than others due to a wide variety of reasons, but we all start at level 1, and it's a wasted effort to compare your rate and direction of growth to others. And I seriously can not emphisize that enough so I'll say it again.
    IT IS A WASTED EFFORT TO COMPARE YOUR RATE AND DIRECTION OF GROWTH TO OTHERS.

    Even the handicapped can still grow and learn. They can find alternate routes. Strengthen their weaknesses while pruning their strengths.

    Yes. Only the one in first will win the metal, but that doesn't invalidate everything below it. Especially in something as subjective as art. Not being 'the best' is a down right terrible excuse to not work.
    I'm not saying that you will be the next Rembrandt van Rijn, or Johannes Vermeer. But you mustn't forget artists like Picasso and Dali are also renowned.

    Find your imperfections and acknowledge what make them beautiful. Make them strong while developing the techniques, knowledge and methods to clearly and boldly relate your concepts.
    There is no one route. No one single objective goal.
    There are no rules. Only tools.

    I don't think I'm totally clear on what you're trying to challenge or assert, but I hope I'm being clear enough on my meaning.
    Your artistic development isn't a competition.
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    Last edited by Gramul; 03-23-2015 at 05:25 PM.

  3. #693
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Make them strong while developing the techniques, knowledge and methods to clearly and boldly relate your concepts.
    I don't focus much on techniques or stuff, I know how anatomie works and when it looks right it's okay.
    You make art sound like it's science but to me it's just fun and I think having fun is more important,
    even improvment is coming faster when you love what you do ^^
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  4. #694
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calami View Post
    As someone who's been told time after time that she's talented when it comes to drawing, I can vouch that you definitely need to concentrate on "techniques, knowledge and methods" in order to improve and become a more well-rounded artist. This is on top of drawing a lot, oftentimes drawing things that look like absolute crap just in order to get that image out on paper and move on with your life. Someone with talent who never strives to improve is still going to wind up worse than someone who dedicates their time to improving themselves, whether it takes months or years for that time to come.

    Think the tortoise and the hare.
    Seems like I do art wrong then..
    I wonder how I managed to improve without trying to do so :/
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  5. #695
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luua View Post
    Seems like I do art wrong then..
    I wonder how I managed to improve without trying to do so :/
    I'd be willing to bet you've drawn a lot in your life, but if your art started out looking just like that from the first drawing you ever created then congratulations, you are talented! Must have been nice never having to work for it.
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  6. #696
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    My latest... She's a alt I never play.


    And here's my former self! I've posted it before but it's been buried somewhere, so here it is again.
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  7. #697
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calami View Post
    I'd be willing to bet you've drawn a lot in your life, but if your art started out looking just like that from the first drawing you ever created then congratulations, you are talented! Must have been nice never having to work for it.
    No I never worked for it, you know why? Because I love to draw and it's not work if you do what you love ^^
    I don't see art as science or work, it's relaxing for me and my way to express myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    I bet if you compare your art now to when you started (whenever that was), you'll see a great difference.
    Of course I have improved, this happens when you draw and keep drawing.
    Still I never focused so much on some techniques I just did my thing.
    If it looked right for me I continued and if not I tried to fix somehow ^^

    Aaaah btw just finished a new commission

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  8. #698
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    Rhyo Bjorn
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    This is my fan art of my character this is it since very long time, across a lot of universes like Phantasy star online from dreamcast, Oblivion, Skyrim, Baldurs Gate I&II, Diablo, Destiny and finally FF14.

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    Last edited by Aiden_Volkov; 03-23-2015 at 08:21 PM. Reason: Explanation of character picture

  9. #699
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    Kya Waifu
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    Commission I had drawn for FC member, one goal of this was to get the anatomy of the lalafell as close to as it is in game. I think they still need to be a bit more rounded to get that true lalafell feel. But otherwise, had fun experimenting with the background as I have been trying to focus more on making backgrounds better
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  10. #700
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Tell that to Shiva's chiropractor.

    It's good to love what you do, but you didn't really need to tell us any of that, especially not in a context that makes it seem like you're trying to place yourself on a pedestal above others.
    I told him but he said she'll be alright xD
    Since ppl speak about their opinions and viewpoints I just added mine personal too,
    if you think I'm trying to 'place myself on a pedestal above others' just by telling that I see
    art as fun and not work you have a strange understanding Ô.o
    seems more like you see this whole thing as competion...
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