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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekomataya View Post
    I was just going to ignore you, but since you're apparently willing to accept remuneration for art that isn't yours...

    That image is a direct trace of Shunya Yamashita's artwork on the left. I couldn't find the exact originals of your other 'drawings', since, frankly, I don't want to spend more time on it than I already have, but I think you'll agree the similarity to Shunya Yamashita's work is quite striking.

    I'm sorry for butting in here, but art theft is not okay.
    This is not Art Theft. If it were then the following images would be impossible (and they are not as they are all over the Internet):




    For reference, these images represent a well-known meme. The meme in question is named the "Yandere Trance" and originates from an image of one of the characters of the Anime series "Future Diary" also known as "Mirai Nikki" in Japan. The character in question is named "Gasai Yuno" and is the living embodiment of the Axe-Crazy & Yandere Girlfriend Tropes. Here is the original source image for your reference:



    What you have here is an example of what is called an "Exploitable" image. These are image templates that are missing defining characteristics and are thus easy to edit. They are extremely popular on image-boards like 4chan, and unless I am mistaken, do not count as Art-Theft, because if it did, 4chan and various other image-boards would be facing heavy lawsuits. That is all this is.

    Oh, and yes, some of the images in the Yandere Trance Meme (not counting the original) are in fact done by professional Anime and Manga Artists who accept money for their artwork. Point is, this is a phenomenon on the Internet. You need to learn to deal with it. Heck, Anime and Manga Artists have been pulling this kind of stunt off on each other for decades… look at all the Rei Ayanami and Shana clones out there for the proof of the fact! Heck Bandai does it to itself, what with its mountain of Char Clones. If big name studios can get away with it, why can’t one no name individual?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
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    Did you not see the post with all the overlayed images? Besides, what you posted is a meme. The idea is to copy the original image with multiply characters as a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
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    That's a meme. The people making the memes are not doing it for monetary gain. They are simply doing it to convey a message.
    Everyone on the thread agreed that it's okay to trace art so long as you SAY that you did. The artist has blatantly traced the art and yet claims that no tracing was used. That's why people are complaining. Plus, she wanted to charge people for it and that's just taking it that extra step too far.

    Please make sure you actually follow the thread properly before trying to defend someone who has actually done something that's frowned upon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morsmordie View Post
    That's a meme. The people making the memes are not doing it for monetary gain. They are simply doing it to convey a message.
    Everyone on the thread agreed that it's okay to trace art so long as you SAY that you did. The artist has blatantly traced the art and yet claims that no tracing was used. That's why people are complaining. Plus, she wanted to charge people for it and that's just taking it that extra step too far.

    Please make sure you actually follow the thread properly before trying to defend someone who has actually done something that's frowned upon.
    Did you guys not see the part of my post talking about Rei Ayanami, Shana, and Char Aznable Clones? Yes what I posted is a meme, but that doesn't change the fact that copying other people's art is something that happens in mainstream Anime and Manga quite often.

    Also, I am not defending the person, I am defending the Art.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
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    You're missing the point here...

    Everyone agreed that copying other art is fine so long as you say that you did... If she said "oh look, I used this as a reference/I traced a part of it, but I changed it, look how pretty it looks" then people would have been okay with it. No one is attacking her for the fact that she traced the stuff. They are simply saying that it's silly to deny the fact that she did it even though there is blatant evidence that she did.

    Also, once again since you seem to randomly skip bits when you're reading a comment, she wanted to charge people for money and that is just not right. She wouldn't have drawn the full thing and even if she edits a few things, she's still copying someone else's work. If she was talking to the artist and they got a share of that commission money, that's fine but she is simply taking full credit for something she didn't fully produce. THAT was the problem, not the tracing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
    Did you guys not see the part of my post talking about Rei Ayanami, Shana, and Char Aznable Clones? Yes what I posted is a meme, but that doesn't change the fact that copying other people's art is something that happens in mainstream Anime and Manga quite often.

    Also, I am not defending the person, I am defending the Art.
    Again, you're horribly confused. Those are tropes, not obvious line tracings from another artist's hard work. There's a difference between stealing someone's art and saying it's yours, and emulating a character archetype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
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    Ethics/legality (with the sales) aside, I personally don't like the feeling of having the wool pulled over my eyes. Had they given some sort of credit to the original artist from the start, I don't think a lot of people would have had a huge issue with it. However, they only brought up the artist when shit hit the fan so to speak, and then they still claimed that they weren't traces (which was debunked a few posts later...).
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    Its still theft. Popular meme or not. Why? Because they surely did not receive permission from the owner of the art to do so. Had the person redrawn it them selves then that's a different story. They are using someone else's work to gain popularity.

    Yes, there are tons of bases on the internet that allow you to fill in the details of a character, but those too are for the most part made without permission of the artist.

    Something being accepted by many doesn't make it right. Specially when you go about telling people that you did it all with your own skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    Its still theft. Popular meme or not. Why? Because they surely did not receive permission from the owner of the art to do so. Had the person redrawn it them selves then that's a different story. They are using someone else's work to gain popularity.

    Yes, there are tons of bases on the internet that allow you to fill in the details of a character, but those too are for the most part made without permission of the artist.

    Something being accepted by many doesn't make it right. Specially when you go about telling people that you did it all with your own skills.
    It kind of does make it right, because the people generally aren't passing it off as their idea, their style, or making money off of it. The idea of the meme is to just have fun and joke. No one think you came up with that drawing. If they do then you set them straight, this person is this thread is tracing and claiming its their own art. Thats the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tule View Post
    It kind of does make it right, because the people generally aren't passing it off as their idea, their style, or making money off of it. The idea of the meme is to just have fun and joke. No one think you came up with that drawing. If they do then you set them straight, this person is this thread is tracing and claiming its their own art. Thats the difference.
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