The Big Problem With Zodiac Farm

[Ixim]

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I completely agree with you. If they were going to make the Atma/Animus weapons this much work, they should have made the Atma weapon have iLvl 100 stats and the Animus weapon have iLvl 110 or at least iLvl 105 stats. As it currently stands you can put around 120 Hours into getting your Animus weapon, or you can spend a small fraction of that getting your Leviathan EX weapon. Granted I'm in it for the long haul, I finished my Atma weapon, but I'm in no rush to get the Animus weapon. It's just currently too much work to be worth dedicating 100% of my game time to.

The way the game is currently set up you can either play multiple classes and enjoy the game, or be stuck grinding Atma/Myth for your (underwhelming) Animus weapon. There is just not enough time in the day to do both unless you aren't planning to get your Animus until 2.25.

[Doki]

It's reasonable for a casual player to farm a book and clear the book challenges every 2 days. No reason you couldn't have a weapons done within the first month. I am on my 3rd book now as well, and I only play for a few hours after work, and some weekend grinding. Fortunately the new beastman dailies take very little time to deal with. Hope to be up to like book 6 by next week when coil gets echo #1. The chest armor & improved weapons should make things a lot more manageable.

[Timethiuas]

It's reasonable for a casual player to farm a book and clear the book challenges every 2 days. No reason you couldn't have a weapons done within the first month. I am on my 3rd book now as well, and I only play for a few hours after work, and some weekend grinding. Fortunately the new beastman dailies take very little time to deal with. Hope to be up to like book 6 by next week when coil gets echo #1. The chest armor & improved weapons should make things a lot more manageable.

That would be great, except the time it takes to get to the book phase. I am 0/12 on Atmas right now. I am excited to get to the book phase. I think a better implementation would have been to forgo the Atma and jump right to the books.

[NaliaBrown]

That would be great, except the time it takes to get to the book phase. I am 0/12 on Atmas right now. I am excited to get to the book phase. I think a better implementation would have been to forgo the Atma and jump right to the books.

Yeah, I like this. The books sound like they would actually be fun - a variety of activities that you need to complete to upgrade the stats on your weapon. But as it is now, you have to grind fates for hours/days/weeks to "upgrade" to a weapon that's essentially just a paint job. What's the point of that?

[Deathscythe343]

Yeah, I like this. The books sound like they would actually be fun - a variety of activities that you need to complete to upgrade the stats on your weapon. But as it is now, you have to grind fates for hours/days/weeks to "upgrade" to a weapon that's essentially just a paint job. What's the point of that?

From what I have been told, the books do a much better job of letting you know where you stand on finishing the upgrade. From what I have gathered from this thread and others like it, is that most players hate that there is no kind of visual progression. Meaning there is no way for them to tell that moving towards the goal. They are just doing the fates hoping that they can finally get their atma.

[Deathscythe343]

I think a better implementation would have been to forgo the Atma and jump right to the books.

A better idea would have been to let players purchase the books as soon as they have the atma weapon quest, but not allow them to start them until they get all of their atma. It would give players the ability to get a large chunk of the grind out of the way. Another idea would have been to also include the mobs killed during the fates as potential drop chance for the atma.

[NyneAlexander]

The challenge to casuals isn't completing the books. The challenge is being able to access the books by completing the stupid fate gate. People keep saying "well I got mine in a few hours" or "mine only took a day". Guess what? Random is random. I've been at it since saturday night and I'm only halfway done. I know plenty of people that are in worse shape. And I play everyday, at least 4hrs a day if not (way) longer.

Random is random, and often times random sucks. There is no guarantee that someone grinding fates will ever finish, let alone finish in a day like so many people have alluded.

[ZeroRains]

Agreed, the book does a very nice job, one of the better parts of the entire quest.

[TwoEggs]

Im a casual olayer who also does endgame stuff and when im not maxing soldiery or running coils im fate grinding and havent seen 1 atma drop... i play 3 to 4 days a week looks like it will be well over a month or so for me to get the atmas ... the drop rate is terrible just up it to 25-40% and absolute after 20 fates per zone.. or something like that more reasonable