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    Kakure's Avatar
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    C'saka Kahjai
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by PROBOUND View Post
    Yea apparently even if you didnt hit any misses the highest quality you could have obtained with that rotation is aprox. 33%. I'm not sure how much quality the 2nd rotation would give you considering it can achieve a 9 stack IQ. Worth a try.
    Up to 100%, potentially. These are all 85%+ Terminus Putty synths with normal status Byregot's Blessing:





    Here is a 100% Terminus Putty synth after a good status Byregot's Blessing:



    I made all of these with a version of the second rotation using 9x 80% Hasty Touch and 2x 90% Piece by Piece. I also Reclaim aggressively; there's simply no way to consistently HQ Terminus Putty if you aren't willing to roll the dice and break your synthesis when it's not going well.

    The additional touch is only part of the reason the Waste Not II rotations can produce numbers so much higher than the more conservative rotations. The other reason is that they give you (at most) a single opportunity to trade a good condition Hasty Touch for a normal condition Basic Touch. The quality in these pictures was 1900-2400 before Byregot's Blessing - that's due entirely to good/excellent touches. Tricks of the Trade is great at smoothing out the RNG involved in landing your touches, but foregoing all your opportunities for good condition touches also ensures middling returns.
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    Last edited by Kakure; 04-13-2014 at 04:30 AM.

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    Kimura Blaze
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    Exodus
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kakure View Post
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    hold up, you are at 25 durability, 244 progress. you need 3 more careful synth 2 with ingenuity 2 up to finish (210ish progress), how could you possibly finish this? the only way i see is to use 2 standard synth instead of 3 CS2, but then again, you have no cp.
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    M'kael Jin
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    Conjurer Lv 3
    Quote Originally Posted by Kimura410 View Post
    hold up, you are at 25 durability, 244 progress. you need 3 more careful synth 2 with ingenuity 2 up to finish (210ish progress), how could you possibly finish this? the only way i see is to use 2 standard synth instead of 3 CS2, but then again, you have no cp.
    I don't see anything wrong with this? 25 durability = 3 CS2, each CS2 hits for 70+ = 210 progress > 201 progress left.
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    Butta Stackz
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kakure View Post
    I also Reclaim aggressively; there's simply no way to consistently HQ Terminus Putty if you aren't willing to roll the dice and break your synthesis when it's not going well.
    When is a good time to Reclaim using the 2nd Rotation? After 1 or 2 Failed HT's? Also many have stated that you can get HQ Finished products with NQ Terminus Putty making reclaiming a bad idea. Is this true or do you see HQ Terminus Putty as being essential for completing your finished products?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakure View Post
    Up to 100%, potentially. These are all 85%+ Terminus Putty synths with normal status Byregot's Blessing:
    Who needs Byregot's! xD

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    Last edited by scarebearz; 04-25-2014 at 09:39 AM.