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    Kimura410's Avatar
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    Kimura Blaze
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    Exodus
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    oh ok i guess i was thinking wrong about the 5 durability (i rarely use waste not, but am thinking it is the way to go for the new recipes). i guess if you have 5 left and you do your last progress hit, it will be a success. for some reason i thought it would fail. makes sense because if you have 10 left and you're doing your last progress, it succeeds as well. forget i said anything regarding that. the thing is, i just don't get how people are 100% hqing terminus putty without rng involved. your hasty touch will fail, and you won't always get a good condition when you need it. i have a guy on my server who has a ton of them on market board, all hq, at least 15 of them at a time. either he knows how to do it, or he just buys a lot of latex and tries and tries to get hqs. even if you use waste not, you gotta rely on hasty touch, and if you only use basic touch, you only have enough stacks to get 30-40% quality. if you get lucky with like 8 hasty touches, then yeah its more towards 80%. but 100%? i don't see how its possible with our current gear and melds, and without any type of rng. i have no problems with other gear because i use mostly hq items and its easy, but even with items like saurian leather, using only one hq item, i can end up with only 80% sometimes due to rng, or if I'm really unlucky and fail like 5 hasty touches in a row, then even less quality.
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    Last edited by Kimura410; 04-13-2014 at 02:31 PM.

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    M'kael Jin
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 3
    It is RNG, but if you're smart about your rotations. you can skew it towards the high end frequently. 100% is particularly simple if you land most of your touches and get a Good or Excellent on Byregot's. If you're dying to get HQ (for whatever reason, you don't even need HQ for most of the 3 stars), then as Kakure said, Reclaim until you do.
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    Kakarot Goku
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    Hi guys, I made it finally to the Forums. I have full meld and found the best off hand meld to be: Craftsman 16, Control 3 or 4, CP 3. It gives total (after HQ Bouill) of CP 391 and a progress of 58 (does NOT go higher or 59 with 19 craftman) on lower crafts so I can one hit base items.

    My normal 3 star hit like Terminus putty would go something like; Use HQ Bouillabaisse (All "Good" conditions use Tricks of the Trade except for maybe right near the end of synthesis if you have enough CP)

    CZ,IQ,SH2,PbP,PbP then keep using Hasty Touch to use up the rest of your SH2. Once it's gone get stuck back into the progress, use Manipulation once to keep the CP down, with CZ, & CS2 until you are ONE STEP away from 100% complete progress, Then get stuck back into the quality; use CZ, SH2 and Hasty Touch until durability is 20 then use Master Mend 2, then keep going CZ,SH2 and HT and use manipulation depending on how many "Good" conditions and ToT you get, and try to get the IQ stack bonus as high as possible(11). Once you have only 20 durability left you can choose from the remaining CP to use -SH2,Ing2, Inn, GS then BB. I would normally have between 56-130 CP left over and would go with something like SH2,GS and if a good come's up then use Byregots Blessing if not then use Inn and hope for that good! And if any excellents come up in the synth I normally just give it a basic touch (under SH2) and BB any excellent's at the end of a synth.
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    Last edited by PeoplesOwn; 05-17-2014 at 07:57 AM.

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    Butta Stackz
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji1134 View Post
    Perhaps when they add new crafting gear, or a new CP food so enable us to reach 400 CP, then we can replace the one HT in Rotation 3 and just call that the "almost 100% HQ from HQ mats" rotation for 3 star recipes. Until then, we will have to deal with at least some amount of RNG in our crafting lives.
    Has anyone found out if the new CP cap 398 (i think?) is enough to make Rotation 3 "Almost HQ with HQ matts" guarenteed rotation? I'm curious if the added 7 CP from the new crafting gear makes any changes here. If anything just for a lazy 3* macro.

    Its not 400 but its damn close.
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    Last edited by PROBOUND; 07-17-2014 at 03:44 AM.

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    Tete Rouge
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    Louisoix
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    Armorer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by PROBOUND View Post
    Has anyone found out if the new CP cap 398 (i think?) is enough to make Rotation 3 "Almost HQ with HQ matts" guarenteed rotation? I'm curious if the added 7 CP from the new crafting gear makes any changes here. If anything just for a lazy 3* macro.

    Its not 400 but its damn close.
    I tried for a very long time with a Supra and no, it's not. We are still short the necessary CP needed. My final conclusion is we'll need 407 CP to 100% three star synths. Using that much CP I made a 100% rotation. Quote from the Supra thread about it:

    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    Since getting a Chantico Supra, I've experimented extensively with three star synthesis. My ultimate goal is to see if having a Supra means I can create an RNG Free 100% rotation similar to the other three I came up with for various crafting scenarios. After many hours of testing, my conclusion is it still can't be done. The closest I can get is 4740 of 4980 quality (with HQ materials) - or 86%.
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    Chida Rake
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    Omega
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    nice picture scarebearz, must of been a lucky synth or your holding out on the community..!!
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    strange awareness of ghosts that no longer haunt this shell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chidarake View Post
    nice picture scarebearz, must of been a lucky synth or your holding out on the community..!!
    Lucky on proc's, could have finished the craft long before, wanted to see how many steps I could push it to xD
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Daaaaaang, Scarebearz! I thought I was awesome to get to step 53 on a three star synth the other day. I reached like, 80% chance from 0 starting quality before using BB. I bow before your awesomeness

    And no, 397 CP is not enough to convert the last HT into a BT. Btw, the new equips only give +6 CP, not +7. The rotation uses 382 CP as listed. To replace, you'll need 18 more CP. 15 extra CP is not enough to use an extra BT.
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    Last edited by Nyalia; 07-17-2014 at 06:57 AM. Reason: New equips give +6 total, not +7

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    Koroem Kha
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Anyone have a rotation for crafting the 667 difficulty 80 durability 3 stars? Mainly the Augmented chest pieces?
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    Mayonn Egg
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    Moogle
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    It's one extra piece by piece at the start, so you have one fewer move to add quality on.

    *edit* 64 steps??? How???

    Do you use rumination or something?
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