Aint this what we ask for?

[Jinko]

Last night my husband went to farm his atma in Lower La Noscea. After 4 hours, I decided to join him. 15 minutes later, I got the atma. A few minutes later, two of our friends decided to help. They too got the atma. 7 hours after he started, he still didn't have the atma.

How is this in any way, shape, or form acceptable? Three people get an atma with little effort, while the one person out there for literal hours has nothing to show for his work. This would be like going to work and not getting paid.

Pretty much, what they should do is have a buff which increases your chance of the Atma to dropping by 1% for every fate you do, meaning that after 100 fates you would have a 100% chance of the Atma to drop. (the buff would vanish upon changing zone or changing class)

Chances are you would get the Atma between 25-50%, I think this is acceptable especially considering there is even more grind to come after you get all 12 Atma's.

[Legionius]

Assuming everyone falls into one category and then speculating based on that doesn't sound very useful.

There are multiple sides and volume levels change as patches alter a game. Some people didn't ask for this or want minor changes to the quality of it. I see nothing wrong with either side expressing their views but, ignoring all sides except the one you stand on makes your position look weak.

[Thorauku]

Nope, FATE grinding isn't what we're looking for.

We're actually looking for something that has challenge and not just mindless zombie grinding BS. And once you're done with your Atma Farming, say hello to 13,500 mythology Farming.

Yes yes, that's actually challenging! /sarcasm

[Isurei]

luck was always a factor in mmorpg. and i expected most players of ffxiv to understand that since most of us are in our early to mid 20s and have played much older mmorpgs. anyone remember the drop rates for cards in ragnarok? now that was a grind.. se is just reintroducing the concept so that the players have something to do untill the next patch. if it wasnt for this grind, most people would have already completed the quest now, and would be complaining about the lack of content.

[SokiYagami]

I think most people are complaining over the RNG factor than the grinding part. You don't see too many people complaining about the 13.5k mytho for the books nor the stuff you need to do per book for that tiny stats boost, do you? I do like the ideal of getting Atmas from FATEs since it make the open world more lively and potentially help out the new players to gain some levels, and we do get FC seals from it as well. I think all we need is a little boost on the drop rate (either flat increase or linear increase over time as you stay active in the zone) and everything will be good to go.

[Merle]

I do like the ideal of getting Atmas from FATEs since it make the open world more lively and potentially help out the new players to gain some levels

True, but i've been asking, and very few are gonna try to get a second relic atma because this stupid RNG. So mostly we'll have a lot of fate grind for 2-3 more weeks. Then, everyone will get their 12 atmas (i hope so, good luck, guys! ^^/) and everything will be back to how it was before 2.2 patch

[SokiYagami]

True, but i've been asking, and very few are gonna try to get a second relic atma because this stupid RNG. So mostly we'll have a lot of fate grind for 2-3 more weeks. Then, everyone will get their 12 atmas (i hope so, good luck, guys! ^^/) and everything will be back to how it was before 2.2 patch

Yup, I was just joking with my FC today, saying I'm a collector myself, but I'm not too sure if I wanna get all 9 Atma weapon for all the jobs though (excluding the books). It will be interesting to see which is faster, to get 9 Levi mirrors or 108 Atmas lol.

[Sarlazzar]

Part 1

I don't know why ppl are complaining about the atma farming? I thought we all were looking for something to do? something that wouldn't be easy to finish/accomplish, something more challenging that would feel like an achievement/accomplish that we worked hard for?

Nope, not what I asked for, also not what anyone asked for. Giving us something to do is good, but not with RNG, why do some people deserver to get an atma after doing 5 ish fates in the area while others have to do 50 +?

[snakey77]

i finally got mine well i desided to do it on my alt… STUPID ME.. never the less … some areas i walked into first fate bang atma piece 2 i grinded for 6 hours+ each .. I've double up on 3 being a fairly nice person i stayed in a area to help a few ppl i grouped with only to get another atma piece with in 1 or 2 fates after i just got 1 feeling bad that would that piece have dropped for the very person i was trying to help!!! not to mention the typos in the quest log .. really they already give us a ridiculous long grind for some and they can't even give us the right areas to farm in ...thats just taking the piss... no trading of them would i guess could be viewed in 2 ways!!

[tymora]

Put an upper cap (say...50) on the number of fates needed to get the Atma.
- Get it early, lucky you.
- Get it on the 50th, at least there is an "end" to it.