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    and expansion O.o how about a game thats not a giant turd first. We wont see an expansion for 2 years+ easy, if they happen at all. They can barely keep regular patches and fixes up at a decent pace, and the fact that the game may barely make money would mean they might not happen in general.
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    umm ya...
    you must not be paying attention much.

    let me see

    gridania your discoving stuff about the elementals, greenwrath, moogles, and a ritual that is said to help cleanse you of the greenwrath. And hints of a shadow attacking patrols. You learn about wildlings who are lost souls taken by the greenwrath. And learn a child wants to prove elementals are not real, and how he feels findind his paremts may not be wildlings.

    that is just an example. but as I said this story isn;t fleshed out it is only the beginning. in ffxi we had the first 5 ranks and the defeat of the shadowlord. That is where rise of zilart starts. When you go to norg after killing the shadowlord you geta cs.

    starts are slow at the start to intro duce you to the characters. then it rises to the peek where most of the action is and then falls to a climax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    umm ya...
    you must not be paying attention much.

    let me see

    gridania your discoving stuff about the elementals, greenwrath, moogles, and a ritual that is said to help cleanse you of the greenwrath. And hints of a shadow attacking patrols. You learn about wildlings who are lost souls taken by the greenwrath. And learn a child wants to prove elementals are not real, and how he feels findind his paremts may not be wildlings.

    that is just an example. but as I said this story isn;t fleshed out it is only the beginning. in ffxi we had the first 5 ranks and the defeat of the shadowlord. That is where rise of zilart starts. When you go to norg after killing the shadowlord you geta cs.

    starts are slow at the start to intro duce you to the characters. then it rises to the peek where most of the action is and then falls to a climax.
    Even the shadowlord battle's cutscenes dipicted an unfinished story, with flashes of the scene afrterwards showing what was coming up in rise of zilart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    umm ya...
    you must not be paying attention much.

    let me see

    gridania your discoving stuff about the elementals, greenwrath, moogles, and a ritual that is said to help cleanse you of the greenwrath. And hints of a shadow attacking patrols. You learn about wildlings who are lost souls taken by the greenwrath. And learn a child wants to prove elementals are not real, and how he feels findind his paremts may not be wildlings.

    that is just an example. but as I said this story isn;t fleshed out it is only the beginning. in ffxi we had the first 5 ranks and the defeat of the shadowlord. That is where rise of zilart starts. When you go to norg after killing the shadowlord you geta cs.

    starts are slow at the start to intro duce you to the characters. then it rises to the peek where most of the action is and then falls to a climax.
    That not even the plot of the game the few time they talk about the empire they make them sound like there here in eorzea. telling you most give up the avatars and stuff. Still that not even the main plot that just mission i don't call anything the main plot without the Expansion that when the main storyline really starting. Right now is like final fantasy xi before ROTZ it tell you a few things but its not really the main plot.
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    ^ story is the least of this games problems when it comes to getting an expansion....ever.
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    SE please upload some game into my game before you even think of charging me for it.
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    The ps3 release is the restart of FFXIV. The one shot we have to see if this game will live to fight another day.

    As it stands now, the game is insanely under-developed despite the potential of it being the best of all time. It really needs another solid year in development before and can compete with even the crappiest top tier MMOs currently online. (horse is dead... i know)

    If i were king?

    1. I would triple the development/qa/writing team. Either they don't know how to build a proper MMO for 2011 or they have some serious resource constraints. I will assume it is the latter.
    2. Split the team into two camps. UI and Content
      1. UI:
        1. For the love of god, create a proper UI that is in the very least not the worst among the top-tier MMOs. The lag, lack of intuitiveness and polish just show how far removed the whole effort has been. The UI comes off as if they never played another MMO or simply lack drive to be the best (something startup MMOs have plenty of). It just feels HEAVY and SLOW.
      2. Content:
        1. Provide small revisions like dungeons to keep us poor saps interested.
        2. Add additonail non-zoo-like-creatures to the game. We need to start walking into towns of peaceful gobs and pissed off humes.
        3. FOCUS on ENDING the main story line with a bad ass reward for completion.
        4. FOCUS on making the various Guilds more than a afterthought with their 3 useless quests.
        5. ABOVE ALL... expand the game. They have to. The level of content in the game is so far behind even the worst top-tier MMOs going.
    My 2 cents but... while this game is a great foundation... it is about to be destroyed by a few very promising MMOs coming out in 2011.

    Truth be told.. i fired up the Rift trial... one crappy MMO, but I'll be damned it put FFXIV to shame with its professional polish, instant UI responsiveness and overall sense of completion. I mean dude... the class trees are INSANE.

    squeenix.. i heart u... but it's reality check time.

    YES... expand the team and the game.
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    Their team seems so damn tiny, especially for what it is ( a #d FF MMO) i just dont see why they have the people to build a whole new MMO (whatever it will be) but cant get some more people for this team, who clearly seems to need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
    Their team seems so damn tiny, especially for what it is ( a #d FF MMO) i just dont see why they have the people to build a whole new MMO (whatever it will be) but cant get some more people for this team, who clearly seems to need it.
    I hear this big time... I don't get it at all.

    Being a dev myself... whenever I walk into a clients site and they ask me... 'why are we not killing it???'. 99.9% of the time most of the following is true...

    1. Team is not skilled.
    2. Leadership lacks that 'killer instinct'.
    3. Foundation/Architecture is rubbish so changing on the existing platform slows to a snails pace.
    4. Company is too large, slow and bureaucratic resulting in poor disconnected sobs in cubes who don't give a shit even though in their hearts... they love what they do.
    Bottom line... It just seems to me that if the crystal tools worth paying dividends.... they should be able to start cranking out content left and right like no tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanfire View Post
    Their team seems so damn tiny, especially for what it is ( a #d FF MMO) i just dont see why they have the people to build a whole new MMO (whatever it will be) but cant get some more people for this team, who clearly seems to need it.
    100+ isn't exactly "tiny", given there's people who can make entire games solo (Touhou). They also mentioned that while they intermingle (XI/XIV dev team for example) the rest are on their own divisions because despite popular belief, Square Enix isn't an MMORPG company that can dedicate everyone on the payroll to one project.

    XI's dev team is tiny, as they pulled people from it for XIV's initial development and the dry spell of content from 2007 - 2009 kind of shows that.
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