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  1. #21
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    CYoung187's Avatar
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    Colman Meridius
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    Famfrit
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    I'm finding it sad to see that tanks need some kind of item drop to motivate them to do something...
    But in terms of T4, I've never had a terrible PUG tank in 2.2, I've been having terrible healers that let these tanks flat out die. Must be a data center thing
    And everyone else just does things for S&Gs?

    It is a slight issue, everyone wants an overgeared/highly experienced tank for T4 when most tanks don't need anything there. Just like there is never a tank shortage for T2 groups, some loot balence would be good.
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  2. #22
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    Orophin's Avatar
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Had this on farm for 10 attempts in a row on Saturday with the same pair of tanks. I don't think it's "impossible".
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  3. #23
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Ran into this last night as well. I wasn't sure at that time why we couldn't get 1 more tank. Now I know. Sitting at 7/8 for over an hour was pretty rough.
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  4. #24
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    Corydor Whitestar
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Judge_Xero
    Ran into this last night as well. I wasn't sure at that time why we couldn't get 1 more tank. Now I know. Sitting at 7/8 for over an hour was pretty rough.
    yeah could be sorted if they made coil greed only or just readjusted all the drops to even out the drops per class, i am not suggesting they make the new coil greed only just the one in duty finder. Hopefully it would encourage people to come on jobs they want to play rather than jobs they have to play to guarantee loot win.
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  5. #25
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    Darwyn_Ulondarr's Avatar
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    Darwyn Ulondarr
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post
    Move t5 armor pieces to other turns, make t5 drop 2 weapons per clear.

    Problem solved.
    You've got my vote.
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  6. #26
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    MrEzekial's Avatar
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    Ezekial Ine
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by corydor View Post
    That would be an interesting suggestion but there is no way for you to make sure everyone greeds and doesn't use need, now if SE added a option to ask the party if they agreed to all greed only similar to the abandon instance vote if it pass it deactivates the need button for everyone then it would work.

    There is another suggestion for DEVS an option to make an instance greed only would help no end getting jobs to do an instance because no matter the job everyone would get a chance to get what they wanted. just make it a party finder option only.
    Well actually. If players agree to "greed" rules defined by the party leader, and then roll need, that is harassment. SE does not look kindly on that.
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  7. #27
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    Lemon8or's Avatar
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    Lemon Nate
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post
    Move t5 armor pieces to other turns, make t5 drop 2 weapons per clear.

    Problem solved.
    How does this solve any problem really? After a while, every tank will have the helmet and no longer have the need to run turn 4 assuming you want to move turn 5 helmet to turn 4 so tanks would be more compelled to tank it.

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  9. #28
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    corydor's Avatar
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    Corydor Whitestar
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    How does this solve any problem really? After a while, every tank will have the helmet and no longer have the need to run turn 4 assuming you want to move turn 5 helmet to turn 4 so tanks would be more compelled to tank it.
    this is true but at the same time it could be said for all coil there will come a time when everyone has everything they want from the first 5 coils. Maybe moving gear onto is a short term solution but the only other idea would be to add a better myth reward to it, only problem with that is unless they scale it so that turn 4 you get a lot because of how difficult it is, you will just get tanks spamming turn 2 because it is the shortest and it won't fix the problem (sigh)
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  10. #29
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    Lemon Nate
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    Quote Originally Posted by corydor View Post
    this is true but at the same time it could be said for all coil there will come a time when everyone has everything they want from the first 5 coils. Maybe moving gear onto is a short term solution but the only other idea would be to add a better myth reward to it, only problem with that is unless they scale it so that turn 4 you get a lot because of how difficult it is, you will just get tanks spamming turn 2 because it is the shortest and it won't fix the problem (sigh)
    If they up turn 4 myth drop, I for sure will be spamming it with my FC. It's still the shortest turn imo. 6 mins per run assuming you one-shot it. Greed party is still the best idea. Nothing SE could do to the game will improve the situation.

  11. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by corydor View Post
    people don't join them because they don't trust people
    set a really high iLv like 88 or something. you kind of want everybody there rolling for their off jobs not just the tanks.
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