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  1. #1
    Player
    Vesuvias's Avatar
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    Xel'enfer Trellvani
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by ValkyrieL View Post
    Valid point, there is no point in going there as tank as their are like hardly any drops/worthless. I like the loot management TERA has, anyone can initiate a loot change while not in combat(60 sec). Can set to free for all (high roll wins), random distribution(no rolling), or class restricted.
    Interesting that you mention TERA as i think that game has the better loot system and route for end game gear. I mean no lockouts and just grind till you get the gear you need (seriously why do we need a participation lock out with coils, it really kills progression). about the only thing that i think FF has over TERA atm in the loot system is the fact that you can loot unique items if you already have it.
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    Corydor Whitestar
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 70
    ValkyrieL
    Valid point, there is no point in going there as tank as their are like hardly any drops/worthless. I like the loot management TERA has, anyone can initiate a loot change while not in combat(60 sec). Can set to free for all (high roll wins), random distribution(no rolling), or class restricted.
    i like this idea why can't we have a choice like in ff 11 and other games i know the class system was designed to make sure you can use something you win, but it causes problems when a class which is in high demand won't do content because they don't get anything its the same with garuda ex the ring for fending isn't even there BIS LOL
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    Ehayte's Avatar
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    Character
    Supply Demand
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 72
    RE: Greed party: If you state the loot rules in party chat and each member agrees to them in party chat, SE will actually enforce those rules if they break them.

    i.e. if you say: there is to be no "Needing" on any loot that drops in this dungeon," and every other member responds in the affirmative, it would be a punishable offense to the "Need" on the loot.
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    subteraneanbird's Avatar
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    Kurara Mamegano
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Greed party is alright, but for T4 what seems to be a better solution for attracting tanks is to promise them 1 or 2 pieces of off class gear. We got a very good tank who was running for the healer robe by promising everyone would pass on it.
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    Evercy Warclan
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    I'm finding it sad to see that tanks need some kind of item drop to motivate them to do something...
    But in terms of T4, I've never had a terrible PUG tank in 2.2, I've been having terrible healers that let these tanks flat out die. Must be a data center thing
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    Lemon8or's Avatar
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    Lemon Nate
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    I'm finding it sad to see that tanks need some kind of item drop to motivate them to do something...
    Then why should anyone do anything besides for fun? I'm not gonna spend time to get some random people drops when there's nothing for me. That's why I do it with FC to help them get gears and once they get gears, I get the next drop.

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    Colman Meridius
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    I'm finding it sad to see that tanks need some kind of item drop to motivate them to do something...
    But in terms of T4, I've never had a terrible PUG tank in 2.2, I've been having terrible healers that let these tanks flat out die. Must be a data center thing
    And everyone else just does things for S&Gs?

    It is a slight issue, everyone wants an overgeared/highly experienced tank for T4 when most tanks don't need anything there. Just like there is never a tank shortage for T2 groups, some loot balence would be good.
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    ZodiacSoldier's Avatar
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    Rasler Almasy
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Its even funnier because I see groups in party finders that says "T4 Farm Group, Tank Drops Reserved (Locked)" and both tank slots are empty and all other slots are filled. Here's a tip, if you want someone to tank for you, don't call/reserve tank drops if you are going DPS / Heals.
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    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1560295/

    Tanking is a job, DPSing is a science and Healing is an art.
    If the Tank dies, it's the Healer's fault. If the Healer dies, it's the Tank's fault. If the DPS dies, it's their own damn fault.

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    Orophin Calmcacil
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Had this on farm for 10 attempts in a row on Saturday with the same pair of tanks. I don't think it's "impossible".
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Character
    Divine Gate
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Ran into this last night as well. I wasn't sure at that time why we couldn't get 1 more tank. Now I know. Sitting at 7/8 for over an hour was pretty rough.
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