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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    How does this solve any problem really? After a while, every tank will have the helmet and no longer have the need to run turn 4 assuming you want to move turn 5 helmet to turn 4 so tanks would be more compelled to tank it.
    this is true but at the same time it could be said for all coil there will come a time when everyone has everything they want from the first 5 coils. Maybe moving gear onto is a short term solution but the only other idea would be to add a better myth reward to it, only problem with that is unless they scale it so that turn 4 you get a lot because of how difficult it is, you will just get tanks spamming turn 2 because it is the shortest and it won't fix the problem (sigh)
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    Quote Originally Posted by corydor View Post
    this is true but at the same time it could be said for all coil there will come a time when everyone has everything they want from the first 5 coils. Maybe moving gear onto is a short term solution but the only other idea would be to add a better myth reward to it, only problem with that is unless they scale it so that turn 4 you get a lot because of how difficult it is, you will just get tanks spamming turn 2 because it is the shortest and it won't fix the problem (sigh)
    If they up turn 4 myth drop, I for sure will be spamming it with my FC. It's still the shortest turn imo. 6 mins per run assuming you one-shot it. Greed party is still the best idea. Nothing SE could do to the game will improve the situation.

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    Diezel Lon'dik
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    I will admit that this dungeon requires skilled Tanks to complete amongst any other content. But, there are like.. 2 tank pieces. Really is no point in tanking it.
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    I will admit that this dungeon requires skilled Tanks to complete amongst any other content. But, there are like.. 2 tank pieces. Really is no point in tanking it.
    This was my point there are 4 striking pieces, 3 casting, 3 healing, 2 maiming and only 2 tank pieces other classes need to do this turn to get access to these pieces, which we can't do because how tank intensive the fight is and no reason for a tank to do it. I am sorry but that is poor design i know originally you needed to give tanks gear first for progression but now rearrange them a little to spread them out SE pls

    *Correction there are actually 4 healing pieces in this coil just to keep my facts accurate but it makes my point even more*
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    Last edited by corydor; 04-02-2014 at 10:24 PM. Reason: information incorrect

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    I agree that SE should implement a set of tools for loot management.
    1. A loot master where the leader can distribute loot among party members (mainly for FC).
    2. A need/greed setting (checkbox) when forming a party with partyfinder, where the party leader can set a fixed "greed only" mode, disabling the need function.
    I like these ideas i agree with this or at least make the coil DF greed only automatically i am not saying make all duty finder greed only, just the coil so that people can actually have a chance to get the gear they need on a job they want to do it on or is needed.

    OPneedNerfs
    Move t5 armor pieces to other turns, make t5 drop 2 weapons per clear.

    Problem solved.
    Another good idea it is not like taking the gear off turn 5 will make people do turn 5 less, they will always do it for access to turn 6 and above and the weapon.
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    Greed party is probably the best solution for random people. I ran it with FC 12 times on Sunday and got most of the drops in turn 4 so... depends on how RNG goes, I myself might not tank that turn later on.

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    Vladislav Bahamut
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    as tank (PLD is my main) i doing runs atm only with friends or with ppl's i know , no pieces left in coil that i want as PLD , but there left many for another jobs . Big issue for coming in ramdom pt is i can't really trust ppl's , all tries i did ppl's was roll need allways when they see desired gear drop ;( I think those issues making Tanks actually use other jobs on which they can roll need lol .
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    as tank (PLD is my main) i doing runs atm only with friends or with ppl's i know , no pieces left in coil that i want as PLD , but there left many for another jobs . Big issue for coming in ramdom pt is i can't really trust ppl's , all tries i did ppl's was roll need allways when they see desired gear drop ;( I think those issues making Tanks actually use other jobs on which they can roll need lol .
    Exactly i tried running a greed party today after 3 hours of queuing finally got in group, group made three attempts then quit before even finishing and i had to tank just to make sure there was at least one tank and i need the casting gear from there (sighs) i hate wasting my time, people don't join them because they don't trust people
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    Quote Originally Posted by corydor View Post
    people don't join them because they don't trust people
    set a really high iLv like 88 or something. you kind of want everybody there rolling for their off jobs not just the tanks.
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    Valkyrie Lenneth
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    Valid point, there is no point in going there as tank as their are like hardly any drops/worthless. I like the loot management TERA has, anyone can initiate a loot change while not in combat(60 sec). Can set to free for all (high roll wins), random distribution(no rolling), or class restricted.
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