please stop making things too easy

[erzascarlett]

in 2.2 they took the bees out of AK. I ask why? was it too much for players to start learning how to juggle 2 mechanics at 1 time? im all for content being beatable, but not laughable. do not cater the weekend players as well as the players that do not want to work for there drops. I propose they brick all dungeons into 2 tiers. the first tier is easy mode which will give tomes and give different item level loot. then have a hard mode with no echo boost for failing. the hard mode dungeons will drop great gear and the easy/normal ones will drop decent loot. put this system in place for all dungeons. this system lets u cater to everyone. im all for the echo boost being axed from the game entirely. 1st they are making content easier by removing the challenge. then to help the people who want everything with out working for it they added echo boost on top of making stuff easier. when these players try to do coil and cannot juggle 2 mechanics at the same time what will they do then?

[erzascarlett]

break down if my dungeon idea. have all level 50 dungeons have 2 difficulties. have an AK easy mode and an AK hm. do this for all dungeons. good gear in the hard mode decent gear in the easy with this system the weekend people have there fun along with the lazy who want easy content to get the best gear. however you also cater to the hardcore player at the same time. please get rid of echo boost or at least take the loot away if you hit the 50% boost or something like that. im no elitest but I like to work for my drops. when these guys who do not want to have challenge try coil they ruin the experience for me as they didn't wanna learn before but now they want to. these players that want jokingly easy content will have a very hard time getting along with vets who work for there loot drops.

[KitanaiKoneko]

People still do AK for tomes after 2.2?

[erzascarlett]

AK is an example of them catering to the stupid. the bees during the demon wall fight were totally manageable. no need to remove them. 2nd pharous Sirius was not too hard. so why make it easier?

[Alkimi]

Pharos Siruis was too difficult in relation to the gear it dropped. At the entry level (which is ilvl48 btw) it should be very challenging (which it still is) but not completely impossible (which it was) in this case of both this place and Haukke HM.

I don't know if they've changed Haukke HM aswell but the dps check on the final boss was too brutal for people in i48 to get past.

[JonBigwood]

You already have an exclusive gear now that not everybody has: work for your High Allagan gear.

Now myth tomes are easier to obtain and myth gear is not as difficult to obtain as it was, so new people have it easier. So what? People who have already the myth/allagan gear are now working for their Weather Noct, High Allagan, Atma, etc. They don't/shouldn't care if newer people obtain myth gear easier than they did, and concentrate in their own fun.

By the way, all those people who cried that much because Coil was going to be nerfed with the Echo were finally wrong.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I find it funny that making something a little easier gets people up in arms over it, even though it shouldn't affect them at all.

[JonBigwood]

AK is an example of them catering to the stupid. the bees during the demon wall fight were totally manageable. no need to remove them. 2nd pharous Sirius was not too hard. so why make it easier?

I think the goal is that all the dungeons on the same roulette group give about the same rewards relative to difficulty: they put AK easier so it is about equal to WP, and Pharos also a bit easier so it is about equal to CM and HM hard. So more people do the duty roulette, players are more evenly distributed, there are less queue problems and servers work better (it seems if there are too many players who do the same dungeon at the same time there are server problems or longer queues, if I understood well.)

Up to now, people avoided AK and Pharos S, and didn't do roulettes. So now for roulette you also need all the hard dungeons unlocked, people left Pharos locked so they didn't fall there in the duty roulette (some Pharos hater called it Russian Roulette.)

[LexSunfire]

why in the world would they create an AK hm with better gear than the current AK? If you want better gear from a dungeon drop you have your ability to run the new hm dungeons. there's absolutely no reason whatsoever to build two versions of AK.

besides the strat before the nerf on ak was to ignore the bees and burn the wall. people were already ignoring the bees. the only time the bees were a problem was if the party didn't have enough dps. so if the strat was to ignore the bees, and then SE takes the bees out, what's the problem? and why do we need another thread crying about how it's such a tragedy to nerf a dungeon that people only run in dr, to get their relic, or because they're new to the game.

[Maighdlin]

I love being challenged in games. There is nothing like going into a dungeon, undergeared, with the FC mates and still beating it because we actually strategized about what we were doing. Thanks for taking that away SE. I guess I'll just have to rush everyone to get max geared so we can do everything before they make it easy.

:-/