Players/groups selling HM/EX wins with guaranteed loot

[ToffeeCoffee]

SE, please make advertising the sale of HM/EX Primal runs with guaranteed loot a reportable/bannable offence.
Players should not be allowed to buy their way through content, because other people will have to suffer when we get those buyers in groups through Duty Finder who don't know how to play or deal with game mechanics.

Furthermore, there are groups making a lot of Gil from the proceeds of this which gives them an unfair advantage over others who aren't focused on benefiting from incapable players.

[Foullacy]

I totally agree, we need to do something about people buying crafted gear also, it's unfair that they get a chance to get higher item level gear without running the dungeons in a certain arbitrary order. We need to stop this before it ruins the game. The market board also needs to be removed so raiders do not get a chance to purchase food to increase their stats without making it themselves. The market board is the only reason why Blue Gartr killed Turn 8, they raid so much they don't have time to craft food, but they get an unfair advantage over anyone who does not raid because they can just buy food off the market board.

[ToffeeCoffee]

A: You're making assumptions. Just because they buy a run doesn't mean they're incapable.
B: -How- do you suffer when, in North America, the Duty Finder is largely used as a learning tool to begin with?
C: Name one thing Gil does for you that gives you such an insurmountable mechanical advantage that these fiendish primal runners are doing to ruin your gaming experience?

A: please enlighten me on why players pay to be fed clears/loot from trials?
B: how you view the Duty Finder is up to you. Is it officially stated what it is for? Personally I would specify practice runs in Party Finder, not impose myself as a practice runner with potentially a group who can clear and cause failure for all. That is definitely not to say you should perform perfectly either, everyone has their own expectations of themselves, some Duty Finder groups are accomodating and others perhaps not so much.
C: don't assume that Gil will never amount to anything in this game.

[ToffeeCoffee]

I totally agree, we need to do something about people buying crafted gear also, it's unfair that they get a chance to get higher item level gear without running the dungeons in a certain arbitrary order. We need to stop this before it ruins the game. The market board also needs to be removed so raiders do not get a chance to purchase food to increase their stats without making it themselves. The market board is the only reason why Blue Gartr killed Turn 8, they raid so much they don't have time to craft food, but they get an unfair advantage over anyone who does not raid because they can just buy food off the market board.

Someone got in early to derail my thread. You're just being silly, I hope you're trolling.

[PinkDeadly]

Players can do whatever they want. If that means buying runs so be it.

Just because you do not like something does not mean it should be a banable offense.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I don't particularly care for the idea of people selling wins. I mean, if you're good enough to help others win, why not just do so? The greed some players exhibit is really disappointing; I even saw someone (jokingly, I hope) tell someone asking for a raise to pay them 45K. . . At the same time however, one doesn't have to cater to it. There's plenty of things I haven't accomplished yet, but I won't pay someone to do what I and a few other people can simply learn to do ourselves.

In the end, so long as it's not against any ToS or a bannable offense, it's up to players to decide what they'll allow or not. If people trying to sell wins can't/won't get any buyers because people simply choose not to support their practice, they'll stop. Or try to find some other way to get in-game money. Same goes for the market board. Don't like super high prices? Sell at a reasonable one, CONSISTENTLY. Eventually, the price hikers would be smart to get the idea when their items don't sell for prolonged periods of time.

[SarcasmMisser]

Never going to happen, merc runs is a fixture of every mmo. Keep on getting mad about it if it helps.

[Madoka]

Buying gear doesn't make them good, who cares.

[MicahZerrshia]

You can always spot the buyers. Like the one blm in CT who let his mp run out and wiped us on Atomos a couple times cause he had no idea what transpose did or how to get his mp back. Yet he was in full myth gear and had a zenith. Either he bought his gil and everything else or he just flat out bought his account. We just had one guy get kicked from our fc for openly talking about buying his account.

Buying runs only becomes a problem when you start wiping other ppls pts

[ImDingDing]

They will join DF anyway, with or without their buying loot. You'd better suggest SE stopping offer tome exchangable high ilv gears to prevent noobs join ur DF party.