please stop making things too easy

[Judge_Xero]

AK is an example of them catering to the stupid. the bees during the demon wall fight were totally manageable. no need to remove them. 2nd pharous Sirius was not too hard. so why make it easier?

Wait....there was bees during AK? When did they come?

[RyuDragnier]

They took out the bees for a reason. Think about it, people are so overgeared to the point where the boss can easily be burned before the bees even come out. They've been ignored for the longest time, they're just getting rid of the bees because now nobody will ever see them because we can wipe the wall way too fast now.

[Nicobo]

I think simply implement an option let you enable "maximum iLV restriction" can resolve the mentioned too easy issues.
For example, every piece of your gears will be sync to max iLV55 for AK...

[Lithera]

Just as an FYI you don't get echo in the dungeons. Only the HM and EX Primals and the original BCOB have that.

[erzascarlett]

ex primals should not have echo boost as they are supposed to be challenging.

[RyuDragnier]

ex primals should not have echo boost as they are supposed to be challenging.

If you think that boost helps in Titan EM, you're crazy. You die once, you probably just screwed over the entire team in that fight. Got hit by Landslide? Grats, you're out of the fight. Got killed by anything else (most likely Weight of the Land)? Grats, if you're brought back up you're going to die again and be useless. The Echo does NOT help in that fight, except make it a little harder to get killed. You've still killed the entire party if you get hit by landslide, and the latency/lag that this fight has is still the main culprit of the deaths obtained within.

Even in Garuda EM, that boost won't save you if you don't know the mechanics well enough to know when and when not to kill the spiny. A single tank or DPS screwing up in that fight can still kill the entire party, with or without the buff. Same goes for Ifrit EM and the healer explosions if you/they get too near everybody else. Even Leviathan EM cannot be helped with such a boost if you fall into the water.

The echo cannot save people who do not know the mechanics, and if they were really so powerful, we'd see everybody passing these EMs instead of seeing so many people still fail them. They're still challenging, just simply due to the mechanics. All the Echo helps is you getting from phase to phase through damage/survivability a little easier...it won't help failing the mechanics. Even if they boosted it so everybody takes half damage and does double damage, you'd still see quite a lot of failures in these fights.

[Eggnook24]

Honestly, who cares if old content is easier if you've already completed it? Is it offending your epeen? Let the casuals have their fun like you did.

This is supposed to be fun, right?

[Mindylou]

ex primals should not have echo boost as they are supposed to be challenging.

i think thats up to SE not you, me or anyone else.
it is after, all their game.

imo good for them, keep up the good work se )

[JonBigwood]

I love being challenged in games. There is nothing like going into a dungeon, undergeared, with the FC mates and still beating it because we actually strategized about what we were doing. Thanks for taking that away SE. I guess I'll just have to rush everyone to get max geared so we can do everything before they make it easy.

You can still join the dungeons undergeared with your friends. Your only limit is the required ilvl in the higher dungeons, and that was there before this last patch too.

The second Coil is the place where you are not yet overgeared, and you can go there with your friends and have fun until you are all overgeared, or wear just only the minimum required gear there, probably it's still a challenge.

Not seeing or reading any guides or tips is also a challenge if you like them.

[Yumi_umi]

Its awesome how u can duo or solo demon wall now ( good gear/ dps? )
Also i think in response to having AK made, they planned on the lost city being its sequel in a way as it drops higher gear, has a similar theme and probably the lore too?
Stop over gearing if you find things too easy
Gimp yourself like i do and make ur role challenging loooool