Tanking baby

[Killabye]

Just my thoughts here, after running atma I've come to the understanding I'm a pretty good tank. I hold aggro on mobs over multiple tanks so I'm above average. The point is in DF I still get treated like shit. Sure I could wait for my badass FC "GnovA" leviathan, but why bother other people when there's a system in place that's faster. I'm not saying I'm awesome, in harder content I suck compared to some I've seen dps ing, but I don't deserve to be treated like shit. My response to this has worked pretty well. If they don't basically do what I say I'm a dick. It's really hurt my late game progress, no t5, only Garuda hm because I won't learn it from a video. It honestly takes me a good 5 wipes on something like titan hm or coil then I have most bosses down but you can't even learn the game without dickheads ruining it

[SkyHighDN]

I have to agree.

I Started out as a Main Bard (my character's Name is Robin Locksley..... Kinda makes me a default Archer).

But I leveled a Warrior..... Ever since then, I've been grinding out my tomes as a tank for the insta-queue's.... and yea, I LOVE the insta-queue. And I think I am a good tank, I always hold aggro, I find a way to weave in my Storm's Eye, and Storm's Path combo's... I use my cooldowns appropriately. I can gauge the DPS strength of the party, and pull accordingly..

But the hostility towards the tank is horrible.

My account was recently suspended due to language.... I mean seriously. I have a thick skin. When the attitudes pile up, I think it is justified to respond in kind... BUT I also am not the kind to go around reporting bad language for the sake of it. That's silly. I dont mind a f-bomb here, or any other such, its common language...

But magically my account had a 24 hour suspension.... And I thoroughly believe it was un-merited. I love how SE doesn't even justify it with a letter of foul play or anything..

I'm going to notch it up to my most recent Main Scenario Roullette. Where the OTHER tank was legitimately riding me about gil farming... like is it really so hard to kill some trash here and there when half the group was with me on it? He started getting vocal about it, I responded in kind.... and guess what... next time I log in, I am suspended..

I dont think my attitude has changed at all since August in-game. I think with the magnifying glass on the tanking role. If you don't conform to the elites in a group, you are subject to their aggression, whether it is provoked or not, and they will find anything to make your life hell. Makes me second think playing this game entirely. Awesome game.... the population is toxic, and I fully agree with Naoki

[BazFamrit]

If you have to wipe 5 times to learn content then all you're doing is allowing the echo buff to scale down the difficulty to your level. A good tank should always know what's coming and how to handle it. Going in blind is just lazy and a huge waste of time for everyone else in the group. Not wanting to learn through YouTube is fine but learn with people you know so everyone is prepared to spend some extra time in there. Think about it. If you were playing DPS and just waited 45 minutes to get into an instance, would you be OK spending over an hour in there while your tank learns a 20 min dungeon?

[Killabye]

[QUOTE=BazFamrit;1997886]If you have to wipe 5 times to learn content then all you're doing is allowing the echo buff to scale down the difficulty to your level. A good tank should always know what's coming and how to handle it. Going in blind is just lazy and a huge waste of time for everyone else in the group."

I haven't used echo yet. Only thing I've really wiped regular on is coil and em. Any good video gamer goes in and fights the boss. If you unwrap a new video game, put it in and go to YouTube to watch the first boss video you're a tool. Usually after 2 runs the crew quits and I don't wanna run anymore cause they all talk shit. When the new dungeons came out we wiped once on almost every boss. No videos. No one said shit cause it was the first day but it really wasn't hard. If I had that happen today, a whole 5 days after patch, they'd have talked shit the whole way. What ever happened to not pulling out the Manuel till after you get your ass kicked a little?

[Killabye]

Do not judge other tank on FATE experience. You know, half of those "average" tanks was most likely solo or in random party w/o healer.""

I was too lol. The great thing about tank is you can see when they try to provoke off you. The funny thing about playing war and pal is pulling aggro off a Palidin with a war on a single boss. If you've done ct you know saying tanks aren't trying to have pissing test over aggro is a lie

[Killabye]

Wow you guys all bombed on me except 2 my last 3 brayfloxs hms were 25, 21, 22 min. 22 with my FC. When we did the final boss on city of Ampador I held the party together. I was the one that saw the doors colors and pairs even though I was tanking. They voted to abandon like 3 times about 2 hours after patch. That's being a bad gamer, not trying to learn the fight on your own. And yea, I am a dick to most parties because if you don't check them they whine. Know what I do when I pull aggro with my drg and my 7 hit macro? I backflip to lose aggro or switch targets or stop attacking. What do other dps do? Whine whine whine. Maybe it is me being too mean, I'm just giving what I've gotten though.

[marksierens]

thats part of being a tank, take a project manager for example his job is like a tanks too, he gets blamed from both sides.

[marksierens]

when u become a great tank, people will want you and i must say that feels great since there little good tanks out there. from the negative comments even tho theyre negative u must look for whats good in them to better yourself u must want to learn. if ur not willing to take advice or take blame itll become very hard to learn to tank well

[marksierens]

before all these new dungeons and all we had to farm was wanderers palace, as a warrior tank before the buff people always told me u cant do this u cant do that because youre a warrior, well one of those things was speed running wanderes palace. u know the last hall where u pull everything, i did it with my warrior eventhou everyone said u cant. keep testing ur limit. also enrage mode ppl keep saying u cant do it with 2 tanks, yes u can im proof of that it is not necessary but its a good example

[Delorean]

If you have to wipe 5 times to learn content then all you're doing is allowing the echo buff to scale down the difficulty to your level. A good tank should always know what's coming and how to handle it. Going in blind is just lazy and a huge waste of time for everyone else in the group.

Do you look up how to complete every difficult boss fight in a game without even trying your own hand at it first? Just because Final Fantasy XIV is an MMO doesn't make the element of surprise a less exciting part of gameplay.

What would you do if there was no published strategy yet - just wait for one to come out? Because that was the case for the new content a few days ago.