Gardening - Harvesting

[GarionVale]

Best case is 8 seeds, you can plant before the glazenuts/sun lemon/apricots are done. So when you harvest the apricots and get seeds, you then plant the sun lemon before the glazenuts are ready. Then pick the glazenuts and plant them while the sun lemon is growing, then pick the sun lemons and plant apricots and so on.

You don't wait for everything in the garden to finish, you just keep planting as soon as you harvest one. This makes 8 seeds possible from the garden each step.

Also, if you get short on glazenut seeds than just plant 4 glazenuts, 3 sun lemon and an apricot one go around to get that extra glazenut seed since your apricot stash keeps going up.

A good Gardener can plant that 1 seed different that will get them what they need as well as plant in the correct order to ensure the crosses they need. Remember that it will cross with whatever is next to it when its planted, then you can put something else next to it and they won't cross. So you can totally control what you get.

[YunieAura]

I may have found the "x" in
Star Anise + ____x_____ = Star Anise.

This is old news to people who have kept the little secret to themselves, but I'm excited as it doesn't seem like anyone has taken advantage of it and the Jutes on my server.

I will test it again and post about it again in a week or two!

~Yunie

[Psychosamm]

Using Lyrinn's theory on this reddit post http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._2_hypothesis/ i decided to try and do a bit of experimenting myself. My goal is to find the plant that creates an apricot self loop. (if this is already known please let me know xD) My first attempt was Apricot+ Faerie Apple, i just harvested and got Honey Lemon seeds. It seems that combination was number 4 on that list. "Tier difference of higher orders result in the lower tier seed +2." So next on my list is trying Sun Lemon+Apricot to see what i get, since according to this spreadsheet Sun Lemon+ Sun Lemon = Honey Lemon. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...any=true#gid=0

P.S. No SS cause i'm on PS3, too much of a hassle.

[hqdm]

So, I've confirmed that Thanalan soil isn't required for crossbreeding, it just greatly increases the rate of it.
I plant my usual beds:
7 6 5 O x O
8 - 4 x - x
1 2 3 0 x O

with 0 being planted with whatever's cheapest, since it doesn't intercross with anything anyway.
Planting like this with G1 Thanalan leads to 3-4 seeds usually. G3 Thanalan 6-7.
For the starter tiers at any rate. I use fertilizer to stagger them so that there's no wasted plants after the initial one.

With the market being flooded with seeds as it is, I think it's crucial to figure out ways to reduce overhead costs.
The most obvious of which is cutting back on Thana3 consumption.

I planted a test bed as
L P L
L - L
P L P using G3 shroud, which resulted in:

Using the first config:

Although I stress that Thanalan soil really does increase the rate a lot, as only 2 of 8 beds planted with Shroud3 have resulted in intercrossed x5 seeds.

[AdlaiT]

Just a PSA for anyone else referencing the popular gardening intercrossing spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...er=false&gid=7

Under "Confirmed Crosses", the spreadsheet lists Halone Gerbera + Almond two times, but with two different seed outcomes.
H.G. + Almond = Broombush seeds. It does NOT produce Jute seeds like the spreadsheet says.

The spreadsheet maintainer hasn't corrected this in quite awhile and doesn't accept comments/corrections through the submission form.

Thankfully, you can still produce Jute seeds with Broombush + Azeyma Rose. I was able to recover from this mistake through that combo.

[Laurell]

Well color me confused I planted a 6 plot garden of Mandrakes/Dalamud Popotos and today I harvested the Mandrakes - along with 2 bags of La Noscean Leek seeds and 1 bag of Azeyma Rose seeds. I wasn't aware you could end up with multiple seed types.





I'll post more when the Popoto's ripen.

[GarionVale]

My guess, would be that you planted the 3 mandrake before the popoto or at least 1 1-2 of them, while something else was still in the garden and it crossed with that. Remember, it crosses with whatever is next to it at the MOMENT its planted.

[Laurell]

No that garden was empty, I planted it in a circle starting with the top left popoto. The Mandrakes all had Thanalan while the Popotos had + yield soil. I harvested the popotos today, ten on each plant and no seeds. I just replanted the exact same way so I'll see how it goes.

[YunieAura]

Ugh, lost my weekly Gardening table data due to a power outage.
But I did confirm that:

Star Anise + Linseed (Flax) = Star Anise, and
Linseed (Flax) + Star Anise = Star Anise

[FJerome]

Everyone ready to start a week of fervent speculation on what crosses to the new chocobo food?

I'm going to guess that the seeds from the two star nodes are going to be involved (La Noscean Leek, Young Cieldalaes Spinach and Shroud Tea Leaves) if only because they're not used in any current inter-crosses.

(I'm also going to guess that all our efforts will eventually be nerfed once those vendors in the housing district that always talk about having stock as soon as they finish negotiating with the botanist guild actually finish negotiating with the botanist guild . . . but such is the way of MMOs)