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    Testing if it actually needs to be adjacent.

    So, after 4 harvest, it seems like adjacent matters to produce seeds.
    Granted, 4 test plots isn't a large number, but it is following the same trends. That is the one which has an adjacent plant of a different type will produce a seed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Creativephobia View Post
    Did you ever stop to think that you're taking the word "adjacent" too literally? Why would the 2x3 patch allow for better intercross potential than the large?
    I'll test the Oblong gardens later.

    The fruit harvested is the one that has been planted
    Soil type: Grade 2 Thanalan topsoil

    Garden Harvest Info:
    1st bed - prickly pineapple
    2nd bed - prickly pineapple
    3rd bed - prickly pineapple
    4th bed - prickly pineapple
    5th bed - honey lemon + bag of apricot kernels
    6th bed - honey lemon
    7th bed - honey lemon
    8th bed - honey lemon + bag of apricot kernels

    1st bed - honey lemon
    2nd bed - honey lemon
    3rd bed - dzemael tomatoes
    4th bed - dzemael tomatoes
    5th bed - dzemael tomatoes
    6th bed - dzemael tomatoes + bag of dzemael tomato seeds
    7th bed - honey lemon
    8th bed - honey lemon

    1st bed - dzemael tomatoes
    2nd bed - dzemael tomatoes
    3rd bed - dzemael tomatoes
    4th bed - dzemael tomatoes
    5th bed - prickly pineapple + bag of la noscean leek seeds
    6th bed - prickly pineapple
    7th bed - prickly pineapple
    8th bed - prickly pineapple + bag of la noscean leek seeds

    1st bed - dzemael tomatoes
    2nd bed - dzemael tomatoes
    3rd bed - dzemael tomatoes
    4th bed - dzemael tomatoes
    5th bed - prickly pineapple
    6th bed - prickly pineapple
    7th bed - prickly pineapple
    8th bed - prickly pineapple + bag of prickly pineapples seeds

    For reference;
    A Deluxe Garden Patch (8 bed)
    Code:
    1 - 2 - 3
    8 - V - 4
    7 - 6 - 5
    
    The numbers are the beds
    V denotes the way the scarecrow is facing



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  2. #62
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    According to the spreadsheet, Dzemael Tomato & Honey Lemon make Apricot Kernels. Arrangement was predictable:

    T L T
    L X L
    T L T

    (X = Scarecrow, T = Tomato, L = Lemon, keep up!)

    I got one Apricot Kernel from harvesting all eight, and harvested the Tomatoes first as suggested. The Apricot Kernel came from one of the Lemon plants. Friend in a neighbouring FC planted just the one Lemon and Pineapple and got an Apricot Kernel from the Lemon. I have now planted the same arrangement above but replacing the tomatoes with Prickly Pineapples. Let's see if it's any better.

    And for anyone curious about Dalamud Popotos, I planted two seeds: one with Yield, one with Quality. I harvested 10 NQ on both plants this morning.

    I got the Dalamud Popoto seeds from planting an arragement of Midland Cabbage, Dzemael Tomatoes and Mandrakes in the following (T = Tomato, M = Mandrake, C = Cabbage):

    T M T
    C X C
    T M T

    So that all four Tomato seeds had a neighbouring Mandrake and Cabbage. Both Dalamud Popoto seeds came from a Tomato.

    Not sure if any of this is useful, but having scoured this thread I thought I'd share. Maybe somebody has some luck?
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    Well I just harvested 3 bags of Azeyma Rose seeds from planting Chamomile and Almonds:

    A-C-A
    C-X-C
    A-C-A

    Fyi the Azeyma Rose seeds were from the Almonds and the Chamomile yielded nothing but flowers. Also I am extremely happy :P
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    The alternating lavender/camomile planting was incredibly unsuccessful, despite the usual Grade 3 Thanalan soil. I got one bag out of linseed out of the whole bed, that was it.

    I'm trying for apricot kernels next, mostly as that's the seed I have on hand right now. Going to try and replicate YunieAura's results from here and see if you can consistently get them from an almond/pineapple/honey lemon combo or if the other plants in the bed really do matter.
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    Hello! I thought maybe I could help.

    Pineapple x Honey Lemon = Apricot Kernels.
    (I tested multiple times with success)

    I planted in the oblong patch using Grade 3 Thanalan Top Soil, alternating Pineapple and Honey Lemon (x3 of each plant) and received x4 Bags of Apricot Kernels.

    While experimenting with a Tomato's influence, I received a bag of La Noscean Leek Seeds! (Honey Lemon x Tomato x Pineapple).

    I myself, have attempted the Millioncorn x Pixie Plum x Apricot Kernel in alternating patterns with no success. I yielded Wizard Eggplant seeds, Pineapple seeds, and Blood Currant seeds instead.

    Therefore, my hypothesis is that by using Deluxe vegetable and fruits seeds only, I may be able to yield Glazenuts!
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    Today I harvested 4x Honey Lemon and 4x Prickly Pineapple in alternating plots like so:

    P L P
    L X L
    P L P

    Each Honey Lemon harvested produced an Apricot Kernel, the Pineapples produced no new seeds. Whilst I wouldn't say this is 'proof', it does coincide with just about everyone else's experiences. I would safely assume this is a very reliable way of getting Apricot Kernels. On the other hand, as with Lyra Eirstar above, I haven't had much luck with Millioncorn / Pixie Plum / Apricot Kernels. In this setup (Apricot = A, Millioncorn = M and Plums = P, obviously.)

    A M A
    P X P
    A M A

    On this occasion it has not yielded any Glazenuts, and on the occasion before, with the millioncorn and the pixie plums swapped I also didn't get any Glazenuts. This makes it three occasions in total without any Glazenut Seeds; I too am beginning to think we need Deluxe Seeds (Royal Kukuru) to grow Glazenut Seeds. Shame.
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    Slightly differing results with my patch, I got my apricot kernels from an almond + honey lemon cross, though there was a prickly pineapple planted elsewhere and it wasn't consistent, as my other almond + honey lemon combo got me almond seeds.

    Layout:

    (1) Almonds ===== (2) Pineapple ===== (3) Almonds
    (4) Honey Lemon == (5) Almonds == (6) Honey Lemon

    Results:

    1) Almonds
    almonds x 12
    2) Prickly Pineapple
    prickly pineapples x 12
    prickly pineapple seeds x 1
    3) Almonds
    almonds x 12
    4) Honey Lemon
    honey lemon x 12
    almond seeds x 1
    5) Almonds
    almonds x 12
    6) Honey Lemon
    honey lemons x 12
    apricot kernels x 1

    ETA:

    I'm wondering now if that didn't happen because it's actually possible to cross-fertilise from plants diagonally across as well, so in the name of SCIENCE! this is my current planting;

    Pixie Plums === NOTHING === Pixie Plums
    NOTHING ==== Oranges ==== NOTHING

    Grade 2 Thanalan because I'm not that dedicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    According to the spreadsheet, Dzemael Tomato & Honey Lemon make Apricot Kernels. Arrangement was predictable:

    T L T
    L X L
    T L T

    (X = Scarecrow, T = Tomato, L = Lemon, keep up!)

    I got one Apricot Kernel from harvesting all eight, and harvested the Tomatoes first as suggested. The Apricot Kernel came from one of the Lemon plants. Friend in a neighbouring FC planted just the one Lemon and Pineapple and got an Apricot Kernel from the Lemon. I have now planted the same arrangement above but replacing the tomatoes with Prickly Pineapples. Let's see if it's any better.
    Planted the same garden (tomato-lemon), here are results!

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    So starting to test the oblong garden patches now. (harvest info will be updated later)
    What I expect; honey lemon on the corners of 4 and 6 not produce any apricot seeds.
    honey lemon on adjacent of 1, 3, and 5 will have the chance of producing apricot seeds, or some other seed.

    Edit:
    It seems to holding true that adjacent applies to cardinal directions, but not the diagonal ones.

    Oblong garden patches supports a T-shape adjacent crossbreeding, meaning you just need 1 different plant to crossbreed with rest. Saving the need to buy an even number of seeds for both plants.
    Such as below, I had 1 prickly pineapple that supported 3 honey lemons to produce 3 apricot kernels.

    First is planting one prickly pineapple, surrounded completely with honey lemons.
    So planted like this for patch 1;
    1st bed - honey lemon + bag of apricot kernels
    2nd bed - prickly pineapple
    3rd bed - honey lemon + bag of apricot kernels
    4th bed - honey lemon
    5th bed - honey lemon + bag of apricot kernels
    6th bed - honey lemon (destroyed because someone mistakenly ripped it out)



    So far patch 2, prickly pineapple has ripen first, so I've harvested it first.
    The apricot ripen a day later. Grade 3 thanalan soil was used for this patch
    patch 2
    1st bed - apricot
    2nd bed - prickly pineapple + bag of royal kukuru seeds
    3rd bed - apricot + bag of royal kukuru seeds
    4th bed - prickly pineapple + bag of royal kukuru seeds
    5th bed - apricot + bag of royal kukuru seeds
    6th bed - prickly pineapple + bag of royal kukuru seeds



    For reference again for those who don't know how the beds are numbered in the oblong garden;
    Code:
    1-2-3
    6-5-4
    
    1 is the top left corner of the bed when placed without rotating it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJerome View Post
    Slightly differing results with my patch, I got my apricot kernels from an almond + honey lemon cross, though there was a prickly pineapple planted elsewhere and it wasn't consistent, as my other almond + honey lemon combo got me almond seeds.
    It could be entirely possible that Almond + Honey Lemon = Apricot Seeds as well.

    If the diagonal counts as adjacent, then it should have been possible for the 4 test cases I've made on post#61 (top of this page) to have extra seeds show up. However, the only seeds that appeared were the ones with a different plant touching it on its cardinal directions.

    Granted that 4 test cases is rather small, so it can't be entirely ruled out yet.

    Also I guess the oblong patch I'm testing now will also help see if diagonal counts, if the corners of 4 and 6 produces any apricot seeds, then it'll be something new.
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    Last edited by lackofwords; 04-26-2014 at 10:37 AM.

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