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  1. #11
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    Airget's Avatar
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    Airget Lamh
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 100
    At level 50 the following happens

    3 Woodland Explorations open up which require the following Gathering:
    280
    323
    383

    All cost 2 ventures to do and take 18hrs like any woodland exploration.

    As for the lv 50 item it's rather lackluster it's just the grade 3 carbonized matter.

    So with that in mind it appears quick ventures allow people to obtain items that they could obtain the the 18hr venture, however by doing the 18hr venture you are guaranteed to get an item from that pool list.

    Noon tomorrow I"ll figure out what I"ll get with the 383 gathering exploration venture and will share it since I am hoping it'll be something interesting.

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    As a quick edit not sure if anyone else has figured this out yet but with 385 gathering the quantity gained in all the regular botanist items is 30, (excluding seeds of course)
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  2. #12
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    Thaliss's Avatar
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    Andros Dyrstwyrn
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    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Calamity Salvager, sells some rewards, relic weapons you already obtained with your character.

    So if you equip your retainer with one of those items you can go to the calamity salvager and buy another. In theory.
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  3. #13
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    Edhe'li Merwyn
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    At level 50 the following happens

    3 Woodland Explorations open up which require the following Gathering:
    280
    323
    383

    All cost 2 ventures to do and take 18hrs like any woodland exploration.

    As for the lv 50 item it's rather lackluster it's just the grade 3 carbonized matter.

    So with that in mind it appears quick ventures allow people to obtain items that they could obtain the the 18hr venture, however by doing the 18hr venture you are guaranteed to get an item from that pool list.

    Noon tomorrow I"ll figure out what I"ll get with the 383 gathering exploration venture and will share it since I am hoping it'll be something interesting.

    --
    As a quick edit not sure if anyone else has figured this out yet but with 385 gathering the quantity gained in all the regular botanist items is 30, (excluding seeds of course)
    383?!

    Welp, there goes the idea I could convert my miner's hat once I got my new dudebro hat.
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  4. #14
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    Dragonsi Highsummoner
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 58
    Are we going to be able to have a level 50 Retainer job at all?

    Currently, I decided to choose both a Miner, and Botanist job for both of mine, since I have not even played ANY of the 3 DoL jobs since my early days of 1.0 and I have been power leveling them by turning in DC daily items, HQ when I can. I was 17 Mining and 19 Botany on Venture's opening day, and after equipping both of mine with HQ Level 1 armor, I got to 5 with the first 18 hour Venture. When I got to 10 and Quick Exploration opened up, I upgraded their clothes. The very first random item in Quick Exp was a DarkLight Ring of Casting. I had just hit 50 in 1 of 3 jobs, (BLM then SMN/SCH the next day, I kept them even), so was totally surprised at that. I also got several house items, Manor furniture, Eorzean Maps etc, so it does not matter what job your retainer is, he is not limited to certain items for Quick Exploration trips.

    But now, I noticed under the gear choice, top right corner of their character profile, it says: Max Level 18 (5 levels under your current level. I was 23 at the time, now 25). It sounds like it will be Level 45 maximum if you go by this?

    I had NO choice but to start using both of those jobs, I wanted to anyway for the Challenge Log quests as well. So if I get to 50, it sounds like the MAX LEVEL should be 45 at that rate?
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    Last edited by dragonsi; 04-09-2014 at 06:25 PM. Reason: I would upload a picture of my DL Casting ring from my very first venture, but I can not upload directly from computer

  5. #15
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    FJerome's Avatar
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    Edhe'li Merwyn
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonsi View Post
    I had NO choice but to start using both of those jobs, I wanted to anyway for the Challenge Log quests as well. So if I get to 50, it sounds like the MAX LEVEL should be 45 at that rate?
    Their level is 5 below your level UNLESS you've hit 50, at which point they can also hit 50.
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  6. #16
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    Airget Lamh
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FJerome View Post
    383?!

    Welp, there goes the idea I could convert my miner's hat once I got my new dudebro hat.
    Lol ya currently my retainer is using my main botanist gear and I even gave my other retainer my main pants/waist/hands just to test out what Conjurer would get at the cap of i70.

    Upon the first Woodland Exploration 383 fetch quest I only got the following:
    3 Dzemael Tomatoes HQ
    3 Allagan Silver Pieces

    With those results does seem like they might be unable to obtain the highest tier gathering items but I did send them out again to get a better gauge of results since it is only the first attempt. My Conjurer retainer returns in about 4hrs so I"ll get an idea of what DoW can bring back soon as well.
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  7. #17
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    Roth Trailfinder
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 90
    How .. how did you get your retainer that high in level already?
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  8. #18
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    Jinko Jinko
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Lol ya currently my retainer is using my main botanist gear and I even gave my other retainer my main pants/waist/hands just to test out what Conjurer would get at the cap of i70.

    Upon the first Woodland Exploration 383 fetch quest I only got the following:
    3 Dzemael Tomatoes HQ
    3 Allagan Silver Pieces

    With those results does seem like they might be unable to obtain the highest tier gathering items but I did send them out again to get a better gauge of results since it is only the first attempt. My Conjurer retainer returns in about 4hrs so I"ll get an idea of what DoW can bring back soon as well.
    Chances are they won't gather anything decent from the exploration, I was hoping that the high tier items would be from a specific gathering request.

    Seems there is some room for improvement.

    I'm surprised you got your retainer to 50 so quick, I;ve only just got mine to 26 and have been seending him on 18 hour explorations as often as I can.
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  9. #19
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    Rei'sela Leiyal
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    Famfrit
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    Bard Lv 75
    i've been running non stop hourly ones except when I'm asleep for days and both of mine are just 39. do the 18hour ones really reward that much Xp?
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  10. #20
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    Airget Lamh
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 100
    As it stands now the rewards are a bit lackluster, I"ve currently completed 2 Botanist and 1 DOW high tier exploration and have recieved the following
    8 allagan silver pieces
    3 crawler cocoon HQ
    3 Dzmeal tomatoes HQ
    5 hippogryph skins HQ

    Which is a bit dissapointing considering it's an 18hr wait between.

    Given the Gather skill needed and the fact one could easily obtain a guaranteed HQ crawler cocoon with ease in a short amount of time I'm surprised they made the rewards as low as they did.

    For now though I"m keeping my botanist on exploration and moving DoW back to quick ventures since it doesn't appear like a good variety of loot will come from those unless I'm proven wrong through Botanist.

    (With the 18hr wait period though considering that a 1hr grants 5 at required gathering skill it would be nice if there was a better mathematical formula where since the gatherer is going to be out for 18hrs couldn't they at least bring back 54(3 per hr) of the rare item that's a mix between NQ and HQ rather than just a low amount of HQ.)

    Ah as for getting retainers that high, once you hit 40, doing quick ventures and gaining a rare item like the warwolf mask grants about 250k xp where during that pace you get about 50k a regular 1hr venture. So if you get lucky you can xp a lot faster by scoring big in quick ventures.
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    Last edited by Airget; 04-11-2014 at 12:51 AM.

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