Yoshi talks a lot about "bringing FFXIV up to standard"...

[giftforce]

Yoshi talks a lot about "bringing FFXIV up to standard".

I mean, isn't that the whole reason, or at least part of the reason why we are getting auto-attack and jump implemented into the game very soon? After all, such "features" are standards for many contemporary MMOs, right?

But, little does Yoshi know, the standards for upcoming or "next-gen" MMOs are set much higher than that. I fear FFXIV may barely even be able to achieve the standard set by WoW ten years ago, let alone these new MMOs that leave even WoW paling in comparison.

Around these forums there has been lots of talk about quest-hubs of late, and also quest-based progression, with a de-emphasis on grind. But do the good people at SE actually know how much work such sweeping change entails? With games like Guild Wars 2, Blade & Soul, and Star Wars:TOR being almost fully voiced, I wonder if FFXIV will be able to live up to those standards.

Ten years ago, merely having quests was a standard, but that's simply not the case anymore. Now Voiced cutscenes and quests are a standard (that is of course if your game is a quest-based one which apparently FFXIV now is).

Oh, and let's not forget the fact that auto-attack isn't really a standard these days either. And in case you didn't notice, auto-attack is touted as the saving grace of this game. Which seems odd, since even cutesy F2P games like Mabinogi (released years ago) have an active-style of combat. In fact, it seems that most MMOs are gravitating toward more active-style combat in current times. (active combat seems to be what players want).

Oh dear, I hope SE thought this through.

[Keftenk]

You're still allowed to post on these forums? Sheessh, where's the IP block SE?

[TonyMontana]

Yoshi talks a lot about "bringing FFXIV up to standard".

I mean, isn't that the whole reason, or at least part of the reason why we are getting auto-attack and jump implemented into the game very soon? After all, such "features" are standards for many contemporary MMOs, right?

But, little does Yoshi know, the standards for upcoming or "next-gen" MMOs are set much higher than that. I fear FFXIV may barely even be able to achieve the standard set by WoW ten years ago, let alone these new MMOs that leave even WoW paling in comparison.

Around these forums there has been lots of talk about quest-hubs of late, and also quest-based progression, with a de-emphasis on grind. But do the good people at SE actually know how much work such sweeping change entails? With games like Guild Wars 2, Blade & Soul, and Star Wars:TOR being almost fully voiced, I wonder if FFXIV will be able to live up to those standards.

Ten years ago, merely having quests was a standard, but that's simply not the case anymore. Now Voiced cutscenes and quests are a standard (that is of course if your game is a quest-based one which apparently FFXIV is now).

Oh, and let's not forget the fact that auto-attack isn't really a standard these days either. And in case you didn't notice, auto-attack is touted as the saving grace of this game. Which seems odd, since even cutesy F2P games like Mabinogi (released years ago) have an active-style of combat. In fact, it seems that most MMOs are gravitating toward more active-style combat in current times. That seems to be what players want.

Oh dear, I hope SE thought this through.

Doubtful. At this point they would probably be happy with just breaking even.

[Eugenics]

I think it's to late. Its gonna take a couple of years to even get to a descent standard. That doesn't mean its going flop over and die. But i think it will only attract people who love anything and everything to do with Japan/Japanese or the people who are fans of the FF series.

This is my opinion and sorry for going off topic abit.

[giftforce]

I think it's to late. Its gonna take a couple of years to even get to a descent standard. That doesn't mean its going flop over and die. But i think it will only attract people who love anything and everything to do with Japan/Japanese or the people who are fans of the FF series.

This is my opinion and sorry for going off topic abit.

I'm thinking it will flop. I don't think it will attract even those people.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

I'm thinking it will flop. I don't think it will attract even those people.

What you think and what is going to happen are two different things. People said the same things when Rift first came out. It got a lot of Subs and a lot of initial interest, but like most MMOs of the modern era, the community has a short attention span and people have been getting bored with it too already.

[Arcell]

What you think and what is going to happen are two different things. People said the same things when Rift first came out. It got a lot of Subs and a lot of initial interest, but like most MMOs of the modern era, the community has a short attention span and people have been getting bored with it too already.

Even the developers of Rift know this, they've been trying SOOOO hard to sell the game like crazy lately. Even going so low as to offer the game for $5, not to mention I think it's been on sale for a good month straight at $10.

[Ricky]

Even the developers of Rift know this, they've been trying SOOOO hard to sell the game like crazy lately. Even going so low as to offer the game for $5, not to mention I think it's been on sale for a good month straight at $10.

It even does cross promotions with other games like TF2.

[Malakhim]

I think that voice acting in a game is a great addition, but using it as a major bullet point makes me worry about the overall quality of the game itself.

[Cendres]

I think that voice acting in a game is a great addition, but using it as a major bullet point makes me worry about the overall quality of the game itself.

Yup TOR is pretty much a huge gamble right now, and I haven't heard anyone from E3 totally raving about this game, I thought they should be by now since the release is getting closer. Many people worry it will be too single player driven and wonder if BioWare really know how to make an MMO.

If anything TOR is probably not going to be a 'true' MMORPG but something closer to GW1, an MORPG. But you know if they do that well then it'll be good. However let's not mistake TOR for the new MMORPG messiah, it just won't be.

To the OP, YoshiP does have archaic understanding of MMOs, which is too bad and is probably going to end up being XIV's loss. He has experience with existing systems but fails to see what's coming. That I agree with, however for my part IF what he does bring is enough to breathe new life into the game then I'll be super happy.

If not, then there are new interesting games on the horizon and it'll be time to move on. Though I have a sneaking suspicion I won't leave this game until they kick me out of the server, because to me XIV is more then the combat system and lack of voice overs everywhere (which take an IMMENSE amount of SPACE) it's a online world I feel truly at home in.