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  1. #21
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    Kossuranta's Avatar
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    Kossu Blackthorne
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    Shiva
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gesser View Post
    THEY AREN'T INTENDED TO ALL BE OBTAINED IN A SINGLE DAY or even week.

    Just stop spending 6 hours at a time grinding away at it. I've been doing it leisurely, 20 mins here or there, and I have 5.
    I currently have 2 and with current rate and doing 20mins at time it would take me 216 times before I would get all 12 meaning whole weapon would be totally useless at that point and whole time would have been wasted. I'm not playing everyday and not too long when I play so it would take me like half year to get Atma without being lucky with drops. RNG is just one of the worst systems ever, 10% change to get something means 90% change to not get it. For million players drop seems good, but single player can play for ages without getting single one.
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  2. #22
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    Apinaheebo's Avatar
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    Adelin Storm
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 54
    5 hours in, no drop. Most retarded thing ever made.
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  3. #23
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    Lajunen's Avatar
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    Samppa Lajunen
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50

    No need break something that is broken already

    Atma is not the problem!

    Problem is that relics themselves are utter crap. You put in lots of effort to get a weapon which is equivalent at best to other stuff you can farm with runs around 10 minutes.

    Game is flooded by high end gear gotten from primals?!? I mean fighting a monster for less than 10 minutes shouldnt really give you anything except cosmetic gear or tomes or something like that.

    Give us some balance. Remove gear drops from primals. Make the dungeon harder and by harder I mean something that just wont go through everytime you go there.

    Rearrange weapons so that it makes sence.
    Weapon obtained by misc means ilv80, relic weapon ilv80, relic zenith ilv90, old coil weapon ilv95, atma relic ilv100 (and remove fates, make us run dungeons or something), animus relic ilv110, new coil weapon ilv115.

    Fully upgraded relic should be clear 2nd choise of weapon topped only by the best weapon gotten from the hardest place there is.
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  4. #24
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    Kake_Jojo's Avatar
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    Kake Joestar
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    I support the petition, give us something more creative than this mindless grind that require no skill and have me ''stealing'' from neewbie.I solo zerged a fate with a new player,i swear, he couldn't get a mob cuz i was just one shooting them plus i know the fate so i know the respawn point(Y wouldn't i invite him,i spent the last hours doing the same fates,in which state of mind you think one would be). I devoted around 16 hrs for one atma when my neighbor got his upgrade in the same amount of time or less,not fair at all.I understand that some one get his relic before me by besting the bosses and Titan cuz it required skill that i may not have yet so it's normal, go train some more but this luck based thing is more frustrating than anything,basically,Atma is for the luckiest come on. It show some lack of creativity and laziness from the dev(that's my opinion).

    As much as i love the game, this stuff and others (that i won't mention yet, i have hope *sigh*) really put me off.
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  5. #25
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    Euphe Liefe
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    What will happen to all of the new players that start playing on April 14th is the real concern that I have. SE wants more people to get into the game, but with the current RNG on Atma the FATES will be over-run for quite some time to come. I already have a handful of x'fers in my FC/LS on my server that are lv10-lv20 and they are already getting upset over this issue. If SE's intention was to make it so FATES would be getting used regularly they sure went about it in the wrong manor. Atma drop rates shouldn't be up'd, but rather the method in obtaining them should be changed. Even if they made it drop from specific FATES would make more sense then having a zone zerg imo. Let's all be honest with ourselves though. Whenever they first release new gear/content they always make it very difficult or time consuming to acquire things in the beginning but then by the next patch they add in more and tend to make it easier. Makes me wonder if getting my last 2 Atma is a waste of my time atm.
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  6. #26
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    I don't mind it being a bit grindy, but please just get rid of the RNG aspect of it. they should of made it something like do this many Fates in this per area to make the atma piece, could of be several hundred if was ment to be something long term. Those that truly want to grind it quick and get what they want can, those that don't at least see some sort of goal the can reach. This whole done by just shear luck is joke...
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    Last edited by Hanayumi; 04-04-2014 at 04:50 PM.

  7. #27
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    Blue Castle
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Not Sign.
    However i want to make it very clear, DEV. Team you are a bunch of trolls.
    rewashing old content to make people waste time over is sad. you could have made it an achievement thing
    or reward system for completing certain trials but no. you went with "Hey lets have them run around a zone grinding FATEs for hours on end
    wasting precious time they could be using else where'

    random drop rates, farming for hours...
    I HEAR BY SWEAR OFF GETTING ANY ATMA WEAPONS.
    let the elite endgame losers waste their time farming atma weapons im going to
    work on more important things.

    suddenly this game feels like ffxi when they added the Magian trials and Void monsters.

    Dev team im sorry but shame on you for this one, SHAME.

    Ill get my atma when they inevitably gimp the drop rate because the content is getting old
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  8. #28
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    Yeah...SE just want us to waste time..i love the game...but i hate to waste time in one thing...this game dont need this hold players...this game is good enough to hold without it...3-5 hours in just one stone?? please -_-...1-2 months to complete the set of armor?? please -_- take it easy ok Square -_-
    and i dont need to speak about farming Soldiery yeah...sincerely...i prefer the way it was in Philo/Myth -_-
    i used to think that 2.2 will be so much better...but fall down -_-
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