Parry...

[Ledarius]

I've seen a lot of posts for PLD itemization ideas, so I thought it'd only be customary to also include one for WAR secondary stats:

ACC (until cap) > Parry > DET > CRT

ACC - Misses when trying to acquire initial threat will most likely wipe your party in endgame content. No room for skimping here.

Parry - As many have stated here, the increase in mitigation can be trivial, but with no shield, this is your only means of passive mitigation

DET - Increased healing returns for Bloodbath/Storm's Path/Inner Beast. We've seen that DET scales better than CRT for Melee DPS, so let's apply the same ideology here.

CRT - Probably the least beneficial secondary stat due to flat CRT increases from Wrath and Internal Release.

[bokchoykn]

I've seen a lot of posts for PLD itemization ideas, so I thought it'd only be customary to also include one for WAR secondary stats:

ACC (until cap) > Parry > DET > CRT

ACC - Misses when trying to acquire initial threat will most likely wipe your party in endgame content. No room for skimping here.

Parry - As many have stated here, the increase in mitigation can be trivial, but with no shield, this is your only means of passive mitigation

DET - Increased healing returns for Bloodbath/Storm's Path/Inner Beast. We've seen that DET scales better than CRT for Melee DPS, so let's apply the same ideology here.

CRT - Probably the least beneficial secondary stat due to flat CRT increases from Wrath and Internal Release.

No offense, but this is pretty much the opposite of what this thread is trying to convey.

[MythToken]

Ok so lets assume parry is out of the top 2ndary stat consideration. What is more beneficial DET or CRIT?
WAR and PLD considerations here. Can we say that since WAR is getting passive crit bonus from wrath, it would be more beneficial to get DET?

[Lord_Zlatan]

Ok so lets assume parry is out of the top 2ndary stat consideration. What is more beneficial DET or CRIT?
WAR and PLD considerations here. Can we say that since WAR is getting passive crit bonus from wrath, it would be more beneficial to get DET?

I think that depends on how much +crit you need (in conjunction with the passive bonus) to be really useful. I don't do math for video games as I hate math in general, but from what I read about most secondary stats they are tier based meaning that if you need +100 (stat) to get to the 2nd tier anything in-between 0 and 99 is useless.

[Skull_Angel]

I think that depends on how much +crit you need (in conjunction with the passive bonus) to be really useful. I don't do math for video games as I hate math in general, but from what I read about most secondary stats they are tier based meaning that if you need +100 (stat) to get to the 2nd tier anything in-between 0 and 99 is useless.

Tiers have, more or less, been debunked for a while now with documented increases in gains from minimal increases for many instances. I say "more or less" because hard gains have not been observed with every instance; the reasoning behind tier theories being thrown out is because most instances seem show gains with every increase in value, leading most to believe that decimals are not being actually dropped, just not shown in the combat log.

[Lord_Zlatan]

Tiers have, more or less, been debunked for a while now with documented increases in gains from minimal increases for many instances; I say "more or less" because hard gains have not been observed with every instance, but the reasoning behind tier theories being thrown out is because most instances seem show gains with every increase in value.

this is news to me, would you care to point me in the direction of where I can find these "findings"

[ZDamned]

this is news to me, would you care to point me in the direction of where I can find these "findings"

You can find a few in the posts just above yours. 37 Points of Parry have been shown to improve Parry chance at least 3% So no more "tiering" theory. =P

and @ Basilisk: There is absolutly no instance where crafted gear is worth using or paying for if you are capable of raiding Coil Turn 6+ Weekly, ESPECIALLY with regards to accessories, since there are no i90 Crafted acecssories.
The Primary stat losses are far too great to make them worth anything.

[Skull_Angel]

this is news to me, would you care to point me in the direction of where I can find these "findings"

It may take a while to find sources since the info is from around 2.0, but it's most visible with Spell Speed on spells with long cast times.

[NightReach]

I am just glad to see more tank is coming the their senses, and understand that RNG mitigation is crap. DET is the way to go period.

[MythToken]

This would also mean 30 Str is the way to go no?