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    ImDingDing's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxx View Post
    Yes, I was very happy to see this back up! I was just starting use it and then it got deleted like 20 minutes later. I figured that it was gone for good and I had not saved it, nor did I remember it. What does it matter if your username is mentioned, though? Popularity on forums? You could have just simply asked for the OP of this thread to name if you but you just made accusations.

    I want to thank you and the OP, though. You for making the original rotation and the OP of this thread for reposting it so I could continue to use it.
    lol, Lyrinn was the only high lv crafter who began sharing the USEFUL information for the master recipes since 2.2 launch. Other crafters (include myself) just keep our mouth shut and make as much as possible before you guys figure it out. Ofc she deserved the credit for the rotation.
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    Adoxx Liddell
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    Zalera
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ImDingDing View Post
    lol, Lyrinn was the only high lv crafter who began sharing the USEFUL information for the master recipes since 2.2 launch. Other crafters (include myself) just keep our mouth shut and make as much as possible before you guys figure it out. Ofc she deserved the credit for the rotation.
    I did not say she did not deserve it. That is not what I said at all.
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    M'kael Jin
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    Conjurer Lv 3
    Or, you know, you could've waited (wasn't even down for 2h), or asked in the thread, or put a link to it instead of "some other poster" who posted just a "frame," which happens to be, skill for skill, the exact same "rotation" you posted - which wasn't even fully copied since you neglected to mention some important notes about it. If you wanted to repost it to split it out from the middle of the thread so it was more noticeable, I would've been fine with that had you simply asked or given credit. I see no reason not to other than you wanted attention.

    Whatever, enjoy. I'll look forward to the crying when 4 star crafts come out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxx View Post
    What does it matter if your username is mentioned, though? Popularity on forums?
    Maybe I've been in academia for too long, but referencing other works and giving credit is considered standard and courtesy at worst.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxx View Post
    You could have just simply asked for the OP of this thread to name if you but you just made accusations.
    I did. Notice how it still hasn't been edited even though it's "so easy." Whatever. I'm just the bad guy here, don't mind me.
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    Last edited by Lyrinn; 04-01-2014 at 04:27 AM.

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    Emily Vanderbilt
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    No, I didn't post a name because I already got a warning on these forums once for something like that and I'd rather not get another. If you want credit, it is quite obvious that you created the rotation. I was making my best attempt at making sure the information was able to be accessed without throwing you under the bus as I had no idea why you removed it or how long it was gone for, just that it was with no explanation of why. However I am going to take this salty tone as you asking for credit, done.

    If you want to be salty and selfish because I wanted the information to stay around, feel free, but I'd rather just end this and have the information available. Re-post the info with your name or whatever other bragging you wish and this topic will be deleted and you can have the glory. But I care more about the information being available to everyone that wants to give it a shot.
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    Anyone interested in this, Lyrinn has reposted the information themselves over at http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._contains_rng/
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    Mayonn Egg
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    Erm. Why no innovation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayonnegg View Post
    Erm. Why no innovation?
    innovation increase ur base control only, it will not buff ur control stats gained by the inner stacks which makes it the least useful lv50 cross skill now.
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    Saedrin Nightfury
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    Just credit her already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gesser View Post
    Just credit her already.
    Apparently you can't read the first post, or the post that is two above you.
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    Liz Fairweather
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 55
    I did some experimenting and tweaking of the rotation myself. Hope this proves to work better. I managed to squeeze in one more Touch action, bringing the total from 8 to 9.

    My stats are 405 Craftsmanship, 375 Control and 388 CP (345 CP + HQ Bouillabaisse). It's possible to do with the minimum required stats (391 Craft / 374 Control), but CP should be at 388 regardless.

    Comfort Zone
    (*)
    Inner Quiet
    (*/)
    Waste Not II
    Steady Hand II
    Piece by Piece x2
    Hasty Touch x5, until 45/80 Durability
    (*)
    Comfort Zone
    Master's Mend
    Steady Hand II
    Hasty Touch x4 until 35/80
    Steady Hand
    (*/)
    Great Strides
    (Innovation if ToT was used at least once)
    Ingenuity II
    Byregot's Blessing
    Careful Synthesis II x3

    Notes:
    (*) and (*/) indicate the start and end periods when you can use ToT if it's up. Do not use ToT outside of these periods.

    If you're about to use PbP but the item condition is Good or Excellent, postpone PbP and use Hasty Touch instead.

    If you've managed to use ToT once, use Innovation after Great Strides. If you've managed to use ToT twice, change a Hasty Touch to Basic Touch as well.
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