Atma book FATE "Giant Seps" is not part of normal FATE rotation, and will not being

[Aresaka]

Waiting for 4 hours currently. This is ridiculous. I've seen every fate in the region atleast twice (rare ones). Saying "Go grind more fates" after we JUST finished grind fates for an upwards of 30 hours is just messed up. Up the spawn rate or switch it to another fate. Seriously.

[Bloodmoon]

The recycling of FATEs for the purpose of Atma grinding is really allowing everyone to take a close, close look at FATEs in general, and naturally we are all now seeing the imperfections of the system when suddenly it is becoming relied heavily upon. Regarding Giant Seps in particular, I know for a fact that this FATE wasn't nearly as infrequent before the patch as is now being claimed. My wife and I were grinding leves at Whitebrim just a week before the patch. We were there for anywhere from 1-3 hours on the nights we played, and we took part in this FATE regularly to supplement our gained experience. Certainly proximity rules, but I had to weigh in when I saw this thread, knowing full well that I was doing this same FATE hourly or better just a week prior.

[Bombast]

Just coming in to throw in support for the complaint. Waited for this FATE for 3.5 hours before it dropped. So many people where waiting that the FATE was done in exactly 1 minute, so even if completing other FATEs sped this one up (From what I can tell, it doesn't), you couldn't do it yourself, for fear of missing it all together.

Doubly absurd since apparently, from what I could tell in shout chat, Four Winds is a Atma FATE as well. That that FATE spawned, at a very minimum, 7 times while I waited for this one to.

[Jandris]

Giant Seps took a 3 hour wait for me. SE is serious with these time sinks, arn't they?

[Sirtimid]

And I'll add my voice to the long list of people complaining about atma weapons.

If we have to grind mindless content- then please make it efficient and not on the whims of the rng. A spawn rate of once every 10-15 minutes would be nice...

[xStaggerLee]

I was really looking forward to doing the books since it was a checkpoint/progression grind instead of an rng grind until I found out I wasn't done waiting for/doing fates.

[valho]

It seems like you not only need luck to get atma but also luck for the FATE you needed to do for the book to spawn. Both Giant Seps and Enmity of my enemy spawn fairly quickly for me, less than half hour, but other members of the LS I am in waited quite sometime for theirs to spawn. Making it rain took quite a long time to spawn, I have seen other FATE in the area spawn multiple times, as much as 4-5 times while waiting.

There is no special condition for the FATE the spawn, except I think Enmity of my enemy pre-requisite is Enemy of my enemy, but all this FATE seems to have different timer than the rest and doesn't spawn as much as others, especially now that in some areas there are hardly any one doing FATE, making the spawn time even longer. This is something SE really need to look into, taking in the fact that there are less people doing FATE now than when on release, so FATE rotation is not as fast as it use to be. I don't think we mind camping for it, but some camp 4 hours just for 1 FATE which I think it's way too long.

[Estellios]

There is no special condition for the FATE the spawn, except I think Enmity of my enemy pre-requisite is Enemy of my enemy,

It is. Enemy of my Enemy is a battle between Sylphs and Imperials, and by clearing that FATE by killing Imperials, Enmity of my Enemy begins where the surviving Sylphs from the previous FATE turn and attack you instead.

[Nekodar]

It is. Enemy of my Enemy is a battle between Sylphs and Imperials, and by clearing that FATE by killing Imperials, Enmity of my Enemy begins where the surviving Sylphs from the previous FATE turn and attack you instead.

And the first one have to be started by a player...

[marksierens]

what about the four winds in coerthas, how much does this take to spawn