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    Three Star Master Recipes (Difficulty)

    Insanity. I decided to practice on three star Popoto Pancakes before I dove into the more expensive three star recipes. Any two star rotation you thought you had mastered no longer applies. For to complete the progress bar alone requires:

    Ingenuity II + Careful Synthesis x4 + Ingenuity II + Careful Synthesis x3

    It's quite ridiculous. (^_^ ;; )
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    Piece by piece would like to have a word with you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richiealvian View Post
    Piece by piece would like to have a word with you
    I know, but its still crazy (^_^)

    Steady Hand I, Piece by Piece x2, Ingenuity II, Careful Synthesis x3.

    That's still 20 more Durability used (non-Waste Not) and 52 more CP required compared to Two Star recipes. It completely obliterates your Inner Quiet -> Byregot's Blessing rotations and that amount of CP isn't easy scrounge up with no new CP gear.
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    Last edited by Galactimus; 03-30-2014 at 05:28 PM.

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    I'm a "builder of the realm" and I'm actually happy that it's difficult to craft HQ gear. It actually adds value to the gear you craft (even though crafted gear is not close to end game gear). Also, in order to have a good chance of HQ you would need to use HQ materials. Kind of makes sense to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galactimus View Post
    I know, but its still crazy (^_^)

    Steady Hand I, Piece by Piece x2, Ingenuity II, Careful Synthesis x3.

    That's still 20 more Durability used (non-Waste Not) and 52 more CP required compared to Two Star recipes. It completely obliterates your Inner Quiet -> Byregot's Blessing rotations and that amount of CP isn't easy scrounge up with no new CP gear.
    I hope you mean Steady Hand II. Also, (HQ) Bouillabaisse and Comfort Zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AznAirLines View Post
    I'm a "builder of the realm" and I'm actually happy that it's difficult to craft HQ gear. It actually adds value to the gear you craft (even though crafted gear is not close to end game gear). Also, in order to have a good chance of HQ you would need to use HQ materials. Kind of makes sense to me
    I'd agree with you about it being good it being difficult, if the gear was i100, but it's not. You can simply buy Myth gear for 1/5th the effort, and you can spend all that time and effort to craft a 3-star item, only to have it NQ, and be no better than i80.

    For the insane difficulty of the crafts for 3-star items, and the huge expense in myth materials, they are nothing more than a novelty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castillan View Post
    I'd agree with you about it being good it being difficult, if the gear was i100, but it's not. You can simply buy Myth gear for 1/5th the effort, and you can spend all that time and effort to craft a 3-star item, only to have it NQ, and be no better than i80.

    For the insane difficulty of the crafts for 3-star items, and the huge expense in myth materials, they are nothing more than a novelty.
    Except overmelded HQ is way better than myth, and while it's not easy to HQ them, it's not nearly as difficult as people make it out to be. People made these exact same arguments about Vanya and such back in 2.0, the only people who cared were the rich people and the progression raiders competing for world firsts where they need every bit of advantage as soon as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    I hope you mean Steady Hand II. Also, (HQ) Bouillabaisse and Comfort Zone.
    Piece by Piece has a 90% chance of success. You don't need Steady Hand II to raise it to 100%. Therefore, Steady Hand I.

    I already use Comfort Zone and HQ Bouillabaise. My gear is stat capped with materia (it pretty much has to be to meet the requirement to craft three stars.) Most rotations rely on six stacks of Inner Quiet ending with a Byregot's Blessing. Three star recipes drop you down to four stacks of Inner Quiet (since you need to use Piece by Piece twice now.) Your Byregot's Blessing get's crushed as a result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galactimus View Post
    Three star recipes drop you down to four stacks of Inner Quiet (since you need to use Piece by Piece twice now.) Your Byregot's Blessing get's crushed as a result.
    My 8 stack Byregot's says otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    My 8 stack Byregot's says otherwise.
    "Most rotations rely on 6 stacks." Either way, you need to spend at least five turns using up Durability just to finish the Synthesis (or Gamble using Rapid Synthesis.) Which greatly reduces your Byregot's Blessing effectiveness.
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    Last edited by Galactimus; 03-30-2014 at 06:12 PM.

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