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  1. #1
    Player
    Legionius's Avatar
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    Legion Lothbrok
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50

    Not sure how to handle the new player hate.

    I hit 50 just before the patch hit. I started spamming dungeons to gear up my Blm hoping to have a reasonably good time in the process. Sadly this has been no where near the case.

    I will only queue for dungeons I've either done or watched a guide for. My rotation is pretty simple and I am fairly sure that my error count is minimal. So far I've made a few mistakes while learning but, I've managed to down everything I've gone into so far that people won't bail on the first failed attempt.

    The big problem I am having is that people don't want me there before we've started or gone very far into trash. The comments aren't that I suck or don't know what I am doing. It's entirely that my gear isn't good enough. This is while I'm at 62 in 48-55 requirement dungeons with food and pots. I've been blamed for a lot of other peoples mistakes so far because it's so easy to just point at my gear and say I'm holding them back.


    I cleared Brayflox HM the first time with no complaints and even managed an upgrade from the run. I try to run it again and am immediately hit with the passive aggressive fake mt trash talk about my gear and hp.

    This has happened quite literally every other dungeon so far in over dozen attempts since last night. How do people expect me to gear or get better when even in the dungeons I'm well over the listed requirements of, people make sure I know I'm not wanted or am the source of all their woes?

    I've been through a lot of MMOs over the years and have never seen anything close to this level of dislike of new players. People are either rude and very negative or completely silent. No one seems to be able to tell me what else I am supposed to be doing though. I haven't seen any coloring books and comfortable looking corners where I can earn gear without doing the actual content.

    Am I missing something? Any one have any idea what people with this mind set think I am supposed to be doing? It's been one hell of a demotivating experience since I hit 50.
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    Kimura Blaze
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    Exodus
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    its runoff from wow, just give it some time, they'll go back home
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    Player MurakumoMillennium's Avatar
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    Murakumo Millennium
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    Leviathan
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    Miner Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kimura410 View Post
    its runoff from wow, just give it some time, they'll go back home
    No, just no. It's not a WoW thing. It didn't start there, it won't end there.

    People not wanting undergeared/unskilled/unprepared players dates back to the dawn of gaming itself.
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    Kytheren Kenni
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    Seraph
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by MurakumoMillennium View Post
    No, just no. It's not a WoW thing. It didn't start there, it won't end there.

    People not wanting undergeared/unskilled/unprepared players dates back to the dawn of gaming itself.
    Yeah, they just had more tact about it. Why? Because they weren't coddled by WoW.
    That's why these statements are made. :P
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    Jinko Jinko
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kimura410 View Post
    its runoff from wow, just give it some time, they'll go back home
    It's actually not, you rarely see that behavior in WoW these days, you used to though.

    This game is actually a lot more toxic than WoW.
    (I would say its comes from FF11 actually, because that sort of behavior existed a lot more than it did in WoW)

    To the OP, you need to find yourself a good FC or group of people to do stuff with together, using DF is one of the worst things you can do in this game tbh.
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    Last edited by Jinko; 03-31-2014 at 12:46 AM.

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    Ayaminae Yirien
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    Midgardsormr
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    (I would say its comes from FF11 actually, because that sort of behavior existed a lot more than it did in WoW)
    I can tell you from experience, XI NEVER had this (9 years experience). You'd see it very very rarely if that, most people were willing to help people out, even taking time to explain fights to people who hadn't done it yet.

    XIV is so far the worst community (not everyone, but a large portion of it) I've seen in mmos. Never before have I seen such rude and childish people who can't take ~2 mins to explain something to someone who's new / never done the fight or who are quick to blame certain people for every mistake or they cry and rage quit because they couldn't beat something in 1-2 tries.
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    Terius Palemoon
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    I can tell you from experience, XI NEVER had this (9 years experience). You'd see it very very rarely if that, most people were willing to help people out, even taking time to explain fights to people who hadn't done it yet.
    You can take off the rose tinted glasses if you seriously believe that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terius View Post
    You can take off the rose tinted glasses if you seriously believe that.
    Maybe you had a bad experience, but all mine were great, never ran into the crap you see in XIV
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    Krell Ynjynor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimura410 View Post
    its runoff from FFXI,they will be here forever
    fixed it for you
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    Larissa Blackheart
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    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Make sure you tick all languages on the DF top right, that way you have more chance of being with people from other servers who dont know you.

    If it continues to the point youre truly unhappy, consider a server change
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