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  1. #1
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    Odett's Avatar
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    Odett Telos
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferocious View Post
    Sorry to say this to you, but that was your problem. You're doing 2.2 content as a very fresh 50. You may not know this, but currently Brayflox HM is the "go to" dungeon for 2.2 endgame farmers. You'll mostly see long timers in there. For fresh 50's, WP/AK is the starting place. Though I'd say, try to save up some gil and just get crafted i70 gear. Its crafting mats are bought with company seals now, which are easy to farm.

    Actually, if you did enough sidequests on your first playthrough, many first 50's can save up to 150-200k gil. That's more than enough to get decently geared right away. That should get you started with Crystal Tower. Make your way to i80 and you'll be ready for Coil 1-5 (many coil PF parties ask for i80+ now). I believe this is the way to go, or else you'll run into complainers.
    The new dungeons have a minimum iLv of 55, meaning he has every right to do them, regardless of how many overgeared players are farming them. If someone wants to control the iLv of the people in a group, they're more than welcome to recruit via Party Finder, but when you queue through DF, you do not get to complain about the gear of who you're paired with.
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    Last edited by Odett; 03-30-2014 at 11:51 PM.

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    Pandastirfry's Avatar
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    Meneyota Kunyaa
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    The new dungeons have a minimum iLv of 55, meaning he has every right to do them, regardless of how many overgeared players are farming them. If someone wants to control the iLv of the people in a group, they're more than welcome to recruit via Party Finder, but when you queue through DF, you do not get to complain about the gear of who you're paired with.
    I think what Ferocious is trying to say is, yeah he has every right to run them and the iLvl is 55, it's just realize that Brayflox HM is THE PLACE you're going to run into the jerks with more frequency. So feel free to DF it, just understand the "quality" of people is going to be a real crap shoot.

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    Legion Lothbrok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandastirfry View Post
    I think what Ferocious is trying to say is, yeah he has every right to run them and the iLvl is 55, it's just realize that Brayflox HM is THE PLACE you're going to run into the jerks with more frequency. So feel free to DF it, just understand the "quality" of people is going to be a real crap shoot.
    That's easy enough to understand. After my first time through, the only places we had issues were me forgetting that I could aoe the bombs and the other dps clipping an explosion once. Once they reminded me politely that I could, it was easy enough for me to not feel like a burden and seemed relatively quick compared to the other dungeons I had already done.

    I thought that since it was fairly painless for being the first time for most of us, that it would be a decent place to make some progress on my gear. Finding a comfortable spot where I could just focus on improving my reflexes and get gear without being in the way had me very excited.
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    Pandastirfry's Avatar
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    Meneyota Kunyaa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legionius View Post
    That's easy enough to understand. After my first time through, the only places we had issues were me forgetting that I could aoe the bombs and the other dps clipping an explosion once. Once they reminded me politely that I could, it was easy enough for me to not feel like a burden and seemed relatively quick compared to the other dungeons I had already done.

    I thought that since it was fairly painless for being the first time for most of us, that it would be a decent place to make some progress on my gear. Finding a comfortable spot where I could just focus on improving my reflexes and get gear without being in the way had me very excited.
    Persoanlly I LOVE Brayflox HM. it's pretty fun, some fun mechanics to the fight, easy to learn, and realativly quick. Trouble is the hardcores know this too and they're turning it into Wanderer's Palace 2.0, give it about a 2-3 weeks and they'll get their iLVLs up to run the new Coil and they'll be out of our hair....for the most part.

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    IndigoHawk's Avatar
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    Yslera Ravshana
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    One thing you can try is changing how you respond. Right now you're taking everyone seriously. Instead only take people seriously who are helpful and have good attitudes.

    If someone rages (at you or anyone really) about gear or just in general because they're unpleasant, tell them to stop. If they don't, kick them. If they don't get kicked, leave.

    Even if you take a time penalty, it's worth it. If you don't tolerate rude people and won't associate with them, then you'll have a better gaming experience.

    And yes DF can be a different experience pre 50 and 50. People who are still leveling up (and not alts) are still having fun just seeing the content. Some people at 50 want their tomes as fast as possible. They yell at anything they think is slowing them down (even when they're wrong). Don't tank for people like that.
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    Seif Dincht
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 72
    People should report that type of harrassment more often. Just because you're in a df group doesn't give you the right to be an ass. No matter what your gear level is.
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    Matiallais Archdalaix
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    People should report that type of harrassment more often. Just because you're in a df group doesn't give you the right to be an ass. No matter what your gear level is.
    This. Don't let people get away with the sort of attitude you've been experiencing, OP. Take screenshots of the abusive text, make a note of their character name and look them up on the lodestone to find their server, pop a report in and let the GMs handle it. With a bit of luck they'll learn their lesson.
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    I guess you're just unlucky with the groups, or you're on a weird server. When I first hit level 50 I searched for wanderer's palace cause that was the only level 50 dungeon I had unlocked.
    There I was with people with full ilvl 90 gear, and I'm there as their healer, ilvl 41... They weren't mad or anything! I made us wipe twice but they just said stuff like "maybe should've told you about the boss mechanics" and stuff like that.

    So I'm sorry that you haven't had similar experience as a fresh 50
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    Alex Pokute
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    Lich
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I understand the issue you are having now and i think i know the reason behind it. CT drops 10 soldiery, high dungeons drop 20 soldiery, expert dungeons drop 45 soldiery, so all those people from CT likely moved here. CT is a famous place for having the most of rude and trolling people, now they probably have moved. I think it's SE only to blame to making this change, i just stopped using DF due to this.
    I suggest to try halatali HM - it does not have DPS checks and people should have no reason to complain, however they still will.
    Also if you haven't done it yet - do the relic quest, 50% you will get carried through it.
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    Last edited by lxSch; 03-31-2014 at 02:03 AM.

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    Godric Blackblade
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    Ultros
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    I was running Sastasha on an alt yesterday as a Lv15 MRD and the BRD in the group (Lv50 with i90 gear) kept running ahead and pulling everything as well as going all out on the mobs. I politely asked if he would allow me to lead and also ease up on the mobs since he was frequently pulling hate and the healer decided to jump in and tell me my gear sucked and I needed to upgrade... Yeah, it's totally my fault the stat/level capped BRD is pulling hate from my Lv15 MRD especially considering he's attacking everything before I even get a chance to engage and/or build hate. Glad to see things haven't changed since I left.
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    Last edited by Sub-Xero; 03-31-2014 at 02:14 AM.

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