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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxia View Post
    i think ilvl90 gear is low for him, dps runs very slowly even with ppl using optimal gear (ilvl90/relic weapons), maybe need i100 gear upgrading
    No. It's so easy to deal dps too quickly and skip phases and cause adds to spawn at weird times.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    No. It's so easy to deal dps too quickly and skip phases and cause adds to spawn at weird times.
    Except a majority of the i90 groups still finish fairly close to enrage. It means nothing if you skip phases, you're just going to get hurt later. Especially the bubbles if you don't save some CDs for it.

    Once you get people levi weapons at ilvl91-92...it really makes a large difference in enrage timer.

    i90 is nothing like i91, due to the fact of a weapon upgrade.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    Except a majority of the i90 groups still finish fairly close to enrage. It means nothing if you skip phases, you're just going to get hurt later. Especially the bubbles if you don't save some CDs for it.

    Once you get people levi weapons at ilvl91-92...it really makes a large difference in enrage timer.

    i90 is nothing like i91, due to the fact of a weapon upgrade.
    They only push close to enrage because dps keep dying. If you're down 2 dps at the end, you are screwed. You can do it with 1 down but it will be close. The dps check at the end is pretty strict.

    After the second tidal wave, you have x minutes to kill him. And he's designed to do the second tidal wave at x%. This means no matter what, you have to do x% damage in those x minutes. It's a dps check you cannot bypass. How fast you dealt damage earlier means nothing. What matters is how fast you deal damage now.

    If dps is too fast, he'll do the second tidal wave too early. Not giving the convertor time to charge after the second set of spumes.
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    Last edited by LunarEmerald; 04-19-2014 at 04:34 AM.

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    They only push close to enrage because dps keep dying. If you're down 2 dps at the end, you are screwed. You can do it with 1 down but it will be close. The dps check at the end is pretty strict.

    After the second tidal wave, you have x minutes to kill him. And he's designed to do the second tidal wave at x%. This means no matter what, you have to do x% damage in those x minutes. It's a dps check you cannot bypass. How fast you dealt damage earlier means nothing. What matters is how fast you deal damage now.

    If dps is too fast, he'll do the second tidal wave too early. Not giving the convertor time to charge after the second set of spumes.
    In the end you're proving yourself wrong, by stating i90 is good. It's a close run. having a i92 group is leagues better at beating levi then an i90 from the enrage. Even with no deaths, it can get pretty tight.

    And levi only really skips phases because of dots. If you take out a smn or lower your dot ratio, levi will never skip phases. It's not the i90 that skips phase, it's your party.
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    Last edited by kukurumei; 04-19-2014 at 04:42 AM.

  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    In the end you're proving yourself wrong, by stating i90 is good.

    And levi only really skips phases because of dots. If you take out a smn and lower your dot ratio, levi will never skip phases. It's not the i90 that skips phase, it's your party.
    i90 is more than sufficient for the fight if people know their job and can stay alive. And no, you don't need dots to skip phases. Done it many times without a summoner in the party.
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    Shino Blackfyre
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    If i90 gear is good enough for turn 6 then i90 gear is good enough for Levi. Hes not incredibly hard as long as you can dodge and follow his mechanics. My group was consistantly able to force phases with i90 gear before they were intended, so this notion of i90 gear not being enough is preposterous.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    Loose a DPS: histera will eventually get people
    Tell that to the various party I've been in that kill the mage adds just fine with 1 DPS down mid-fight. It might be close to enrage depending on the other 3 people but it's not impossible or as tight of a DPS check as you think.

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    We've killed the last hysteria add with just me and one other dps alive before he casted it. Granted we couldn't finish Levi before enrage.

    And I've run it 60
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    Oops using phone and misclicked post. I've run it 60 some times and haven't seen the mirror once.
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