atma drop rates

[Duuude007]

Assuming you are farming efficiently...

(leaving when you are confident it will be gold, prioritizing 2 that are near each other over others, prioritizing easy to win fates if alone, etc)

Assuming all of this, your droprate per atma will likely range between zero and 10 hours each.

Anything beyond that is extraordinarily rare. So rare, I have never seen it, and I have over 60 atma farmed at this point.

[Katchii]

Anything beyond that is extraordinarily rare. So rare, I have never seen it, and I have over 60 atma farmed at this point.

I don't know how you spend all of your game time and whether farming Atma is all that you do or if you have well geared jobs as well, but regardless, it's difficult to envision getting 60 Atma without a LOT of free time, or very few responsibilities pulling you away from the game.

Most people do not have this opportunity for various reasons, not the least of which are school and/ or work. As such, the time they do spend in game is likely more limited, and therefore, spending 10 hours with practically nothing to show for it is exceedingly frustrating because those 10 hours could be spent on something that is measurably more productive.

I myself only farmed one set of 12, and once I dedicated my time to farming them without thinking of doing anything else and focused on the goal, I became much less frustrated with what I was doing. I also used it as an opportunity to level my chocobo companion and spiritbond gear so it wasn't completely wasted when I spent 3+ hours farming an Atma.

[Duuude007]

I myself only farmed one set of 12.

I've said this before, but I am personally convinced that SE designed the gating of this specifically to make the "average" player pick their favorite class and move on to other stuff after.

What could be advantages of wanting that?

A more distinct spread of classes in the high end content comes to mind.

[Melsan]

Patience is a virtue... I got 7 Atmas Already...

[Yurihyuga]

why are people complaining? the system has changed and relic weapons are no longer necessary. The reason SE made atmas in this way is to annoy players to discourage them to even want to upgrade there relic as they want to discourage everyone having the same weapon and to encourage some players to go after other weapons such as primal extreme weapons or even turn 5 weapons as both beat a zenith and atma weapon.

An animus weapon is on par with an upgraded tidal weapon and of course best weapons in the game atm are from turn 9. Of course got soldiery weapons as well.

They kept the relic line going for people who actually like a mindless grind in this instance for atmas. However they will keep releasing new weapons obtainable by other means that will be on par and better than a relic. If you don't like the atma grind just give the relic a break and go for something else because trust me you don't need it any more.

[Galan]

It is an obvious time sink to keep people entertained long enough for them to release more content. Problem is the time sink for most is not enjoyable. I pretty sure the people who enjoy it are in the minority.

[klepp0906]

its random. get over it. its been the nature of mmo's for a looong loong time. They make it too easy and it negates the other problems they were trying to solve such as keeping people doing fates to help levelers as well as keeping people out in the world so it doesnt become a barren joke of an mmo world like wow.

For those who like to QQ I have atma on every job and animus on one. I wont bs. I certainly dont intend to get animus on them all but are you seriously griping about being given company seals for earning a better weapon? I can say with near 100% certainty that every person crying is a post wow mmorpg player which barely constitutes such.

[klepp0906]

I imagine if you knew what it took to get an epic weapon in a game such as everquest you would boycot it and shoot your cherios out of your nose. Ironically i found nothing wrong w/ that and didnt complain there either. The developers make the game and the design choices, dont like it? dont play it. SOmehow, somewhere along the lines the children of this generation have gotten the idea int heir heads that they can just complain when something takes a bit of effort, and the dvelopers will just "adjust" it to appease them.

Just as much the greedy devs fault for literally rewarding this behavior by doing so. Money before legitimacy and purity of the genre i guess.

[klepp0906]

Signed - someone who is absolutely and utterly fed up with the games being dumbed down to the point of infancy. I invest alot of time and hard work, time and time again to earn something and the pride which goes along with such. Only to have the devs nerf it the next patch. SOmehow and for some reason I kid myself into thinking this wont continue and was a one-off tragedy... however its becoming more and more obvious, I'd be better suited just waiting till the content is a patch behind. Then you can progress/gear twice as fast and 3x as easy.

[klepp0906]

So much for continuity, immersion etc... ugh. Dead horse I guess. The bell curve constitutes that I'm far outnumbered as far as stance on the issue, and thats ok... but for the love of god must I wait for Pantheon to launch for even a taste of a prod company who values the genre itself over the population blizzard drug in?

Let the flames fly.. I may even pop back in to pretend like i care.

Awesome 1000 character limits are cool - and practical. Oh wait, no they arent. /mourn people who try to post something informative. Obvious SE doesnt read the forums. So many people have had a fit over this, you would think they would fix it. One thing that MAKES sense to fix. Then again, they need to adjust the echo buff for the people who dont want to put the effort into learn mechanics and somehow believe because they pay the same as anyone else, theyre entitled to being able to kill all the same shit.