atma drop rates

[Avarghaladion]

I won't even bother quoting Avarghaladion-chan, who doesn't even try to discuss, may he say what pleases him, it's just been a soliloquy he made assuming false things.

I literally invited you to provide counter-points... which you haven't done ever, or don't know how to do.... All the butthurt your cognitive dissonance is causing yourself probably makes it too difficult to see well enough to read. That being said, obvious troll is now blisted troll. Congralutations on consistently being the most ignorant person in the thread, YanDerp.

I could actually stomach a 100 hour grind on fates, with a smile on my face, no fool'n.

As we always have. There's historically not a big stink made about the legitimate, progress driven grinds we've put up with as MMO gamers. I wasn't remotely annoyed by the pre-nerf relic grinds in XI because it was built around good content and RNG factor had a controlled, balanced impact. Those relic quests took people years to accomplish and no one complained. The reason people are complaining now isn't because these are different gamers in a different time, as I've seen some people suggesting. Virtually everyone I know in game played XI for a very very long time, most since NA release. The reason people are complaining about Atma is because every facet of it, from concept to execution, is complete horseshit.

If you have this part of the zodiac chain done and have invested LESS THAN 80% of the time than the individual who has spent the MOST amount of time on it has, you don't deserve your weapon, and you should have it replaced with zenith and your progress reset.

I don't entirely disagree, but that's a bit hyperbolic, in my opinion. I do get a chuckle out of people like YanDerp up there developing a superiority complex and grandiose delusions after having theirs handed to them on a silver platter in less time than a good chunk of people spend in a single zone. What should happen, but won't ever happen again, is that SE should openly admit that they messed up and just fix the issue. I've not known SE to have the integrity to do this though, except for that one time where they lost a fortune in 1.0 and finally were forced to own up to their mistakes. The most offensive part in all this is how trivial it would be to just balance the "content" in question, since we all know it's going to be ubernerfed regardless.