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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    atmas should be received based on skill i think
    Skill? What skill? And how will this "skill" be judged? Who's to say someone's "skill" isn't as good as someone else's or even better than? If atma were based on "skill," we'd just have the same problem coming up: people complaining about other people being able to get theirs easier than other themselves.

    The only way to "alleviate" acquiring atmas would be a guaranteed drop from something, much like everything else in this game. But then you'd have the problem of people complaining it's "too easy to get."

    Either way, it's a lose-lose situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider View Post
    Skill? What skill? And how will this "skill" be judged? Who's to say someone's "skill" isn't as good as someone else's or even better than? If atma were based on "skill," we'd just have the same problem coming up: people complaining about other people being able to get theirs easier than other themselves.
    As I say every time someone brings this up: if you make it "skill" based, this option will immediately become just as inaccessible as the other options going for. If you can't clear Coil, EX Primals, etc, then this option is going to become just as useless to that person as those options. If you want a skill option, let's just all do Coil and be done with it.

    Change the quest so that it isn't RNG that isn't in your favor (not once, but 12 times) on top of a large amount of grinding and the amount of complaining will fall through the floor. Most people don't care about the time invested as long as the time invested isn't gated by something else that is just a test of luck.

    Give something for the people that love RNG grindfests and you have something for everyone. Some people like endless grinding for reasons I cannot fathom, so let them do their thing without interfering with the rest of us who actually want progress.

    They already said they were looking at multiple ways to get materials for the quests, though I don't know if this is going to be just for future parts of the quests, or if they'll be adding this into the initial Atma line, but its probably something they've considered (though it shouldn't stop actual feedback).
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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider View Post
    Skill? What skill? And how will this "skill" be judged? Who's to say someone's "skill" isn't as good as someone else's or even better than? If atma were based on "skill," we'd just have the same problem coming up: people complaining about other people being able to get theirs easier than other themselves.

    The only way to "alleviate" acquiring atmas would be a guaranteed drop from something, much like everything else in this game. But then you'd have the problem of people complaining it's "too easy to get."

    Either way, it's a lose-lose situation.
    True but did you not read the rest of what i said, like having to complete certain trials or stuff.
    True it would not fix the problem but would be far better then having to do oh so annoying fates
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    True but did you not read the rest of what i said, like having to complete certain trials or stuff.
    True it would not fix the problem but would be far better then having to do oh so annoying fates
    I did read everything you said, actually. Hence why I mentioned the part about people complaining that others got theirs easier than those who put in countless hours in the initial grind (this is on the assumption that drop rates increase in the next update). This is just like the echo update for HM primals. I know several people who hate that it happened because now people can just be handed their relics whereas some players had to put in the work to get past Titan HM without the buff.
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