Quote Originally Posted by Nova_Dresden View Post
The Atmas are completely random and it's entirely possible to never get one. It's not a loot pool to pray for your drop. It's a completely random drop, from a completely random FATE, there are 12 of them in total, and since the rates are so low some players may never see all of them or even just one. No player of any game should accept something like this. Especially if they're paying for the subscription.
A lot of mmos use the rng system where you would kill something and it drops nothing, with drop chance like 1/25000, and players actually like it. FFXIV setting (where every dungeon drops a guaranteed equipable gear) is why many people say it's a casual mmo - this setting is not very popular overall.

The issue of atma as i see is firstly not rewarding enough, second - process is not enjoyable, third - no other rewards alongside. SE could allow minion, fashion and gear drop from fates for example so it would not be a waste of time. But when the only reason someone is doing fates is for the sole 1/100 item drop - of course it looks very boring and unrewarding.
I do fates only when i have nothing else to do: before 2.2 i would queue for primals as a healer, but now i don't.