atma drop rates

[Exitusworld]

You don't have to get the atma. You can purchase a weathered tome weapon from Rowena (10 Rowena Token (Soldiery) for 130 Soldiery each), or you can use Tidal wand + shield until High Allagan.

Nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to get your atma.



I haven't even started getting any Atmas and I think this system is awesome. It's actually making you WORK for your high level gear

i just love reading this and knowing this person hasnt spent 12hours in 1 area farming over 500fates and not getting anything to show for it and then telling us Hey i love this system why are people complaining? whats worse is the area is central la noscea...Sorry i mean middle la noscea and highest lvl fates are like 15 so i get crap for seals and dont even make enough gil to cover gear repair costs with 20% FC buff. so yeah lets wait 3 weeks and buy 1 with soldiers while everyone else is getting loads of gear and doing better content, or try doing leviathan EX with 90% of groups expecting you to have said gear,weapons, and a clear to boot. I guess i just see game putting up a giant wall between people that are just getting unlucky.

[Undeadfire]

Ya, I spent over 12 hours trying to get my 1st Atma, I didn't give up though. The choices are work hard for your gear or obtain it so easily. If you obtain something so easily and powerful, the work for it was just too lame. This is pretty much the same example of having to go coil every week and not getting your drop. Or spamming Primals to no end and still haven't even got your drop. People complained it lacked content, this is what you get. Made content that required time spending to obtain the equipment or items....

You lot are asking SE to make the drop rate so common, that 70-80% of the community will have it before 2.25. Relic/Zodiac doesn't DESERVE that title if it's too easy to obtain. FFXI was so successful to it's own exclusive system. You needed to work real hard for the absolute BEST equipments, this is how it should be. Turn 5 is another example of dropping the best weapons when they were updated.

[Nateh]

Even though RNG does suck, here is a bit of probability.

To find out approximately how many FATEs you would have to do in order to be guaranteed an Atma (assuming the drop rate is 1%), first you have to find out the percentage chance of you NOT getting an Atma.

For example if you do 100 FATEs, the odds of you not getting an Atma is 0.99 (99%)^100 (or the number of FATEs attempted). This gives you 0.366. or a 36.6% chance of you not getting an Atma in the first 100 FATEs, or a 1 in 3 chance.

In order to reduce this chance of not getting an Atma close to 0, you would have to do 475 FATEs approximately per region to essentially be guaranteed an Atma (0.99^475 = 0.0084 or 0.8% chance). I certainly hope NO one is that unlucky to fall within that 0.8% chance, but if you guys want a basic number of FATEs you have to do, it will be 99.2% certain to be no more than 475 FATEs per region, or 5700 FATEs overall for all 12.

Now whether all that grinding is worth it is up to you.

[Calyanare]

The choices are work hard for your gear or obtain it so easily.

Nobody's asking for it to be easy, we just want the RNG removed or mitigated a bit so that anyone can complete it in about the same amount of time, with about the same amount of effort. You seriously think that your 12 hours to get one drop vs. someone else's 12 hours to get 12 drops is okay? If you ask me, those lucky people got theirs way too easily and didn't have to work enough, while at least an equal amount of people are having to work 10x more, which is way too much. There is a middle ground, I just wish they'd given it to us.

[Rosy]

What they SHOULD have done, is to make the first part of the quest, not the soul destroying fates, but a book like the 2nd part.

Do a quest line, get a book with a list of stuff to do which then leads you on to the 9 other books. No RNG, no frustration, lots of new stuff to do...win win situation.

[Undeadfire]

Nobody's asking for it to be easy, we just want the RNG removed or mitigated a bit so that anyone can complete it in about the same amount of time, with about the same amount of effort. You seriously think that your 12 hours to get one drop vs. someone else's 12 hours to get 12 drops is okay? If you ask me, those lucky people got theirs way too easily and didn't have to work enough, while at least an equal amount of people are having to work 10x more, which is way too much. There is a middle ground, I just wish they'd given it to us.

That's the whole point of it, SE doesn't want you to have it easy.

[Calyanare]

That's the whole point of it, SE doesn't want you to have it easy.

Then nobody else should, either.

It's like you didn't even read what I said.

The way it is now, people DO have it easy (like YOU for example) while others get shafted. This should be time consuming for EVERYONE, not just people who happen to be unlucky.

This is a game and why does everyone want the best gear on DAY1. Work for it people.

This guy doesn't read either. SMH.

SE doesn't want you to spend your life on trying to get Atmas.

Says someone who already got theirs, in a reasonable amount of time. I give up trying to reason with selfish people who don't care about anyone but themselves.

[Undeadfire]

Then nobody else should, either.

The way it is now, people DO have it easy while others get shafted. This should be time consuming for EVERYONE, not just people who happen to be unlucky.

Others are always going to get shafted, no matter what it is.... So far SE has replied nothing on doing anything, no point complaining to something that isn't even the best yet. SE doesn't want you to spend your life on trying to get Atmas. there is turn 6-9 which has the greatest weapon. You could be going there, instead of whining on the forums because of Atma drop rate. The next upgrade doesn't even come out till May... Likely won't even beat the High Allagan till 3.0 upgrade release in June...

You can get content that ends in a month or last enough for 3 months, deal with it.

[Reoin05]

Others are always going to get shafted, no matter what it is.... So far SE has replied nothing on doing anything, no point complaining to something that isn't even the best yet. SE doesn't want you to spend your life on trying to get Atmas. there is turn 6-9 which has the greatest weapon. You could be going there, instead of whining on the forums because of Atma drop rate. The next upgrade doesn't even come out till May... Likely won't even beat the High Allagan till 3.0 upgrade release in June...

You can get content that ends in a month or last enough for 3 months, deal with it.

Such a dumb post your pushing back because you got your atmas easily and other don't so you think its ok? so stupid. Please its a mindless grind, not a end game grind.

[Ultimatecalibur]

whats worse is the area is central la noscea...Sorry i mean middle la noscea and highest lvl fates are like 15 so i get crap for seals and dont even make enough gil to cover gear repair costs with 20% FC buff.

Central Thanalan is just as bad/possibly worse: fewer FATEs with most being ~9th level over a larger area.