atma drop rates

[The_Juggler]

They're adding in all this stuff to the Relic weapon, and I'm still stuck at the insurmountable barrier they call Atma.

I keep hoping they'll change the Atma drop system - not just to increase the drop rate, but make the system more fair and enjoyable to play. Nope, still terrible, more like punishment than playing a game.

[Duuude007]

They're adding in all this stuff to the Relic weapon, and I'm still stuck at the insurmountable barrier they call Atma.

I keep hoping they'll change the Atma drop system - not just to increase the drop rate, but make the system more fair and enjoyable to play. Nope, still terrible, more like punishment than playing a game.

I see that you have done 300-999 fates since you began playing, and clearly less for your stardust zenith. How many atma drops does that account for?

[Parthmakeo]

DISCLAIMER: I may be "Casual" for FF14 but that is because i am more about Roleplaying than Raiding. Also word limit on the forums...sigh...

I'll be first to admit that FF14:ARR is currently MMO#2 with a sub I play with (compared to wow) and I've been farming atma on and off. There were days I would farm 6-7 hours or even 10 to get an atma in an area and yet up until it's release of said step I am on 2/12...and the two i got were just on FATEs I so happened to get in because "Meh. Might as well" attitude.

[Parthmakeo]

The drop rate is WAY WORSE than what i expected of anything. I honestly believe it's more painful than farming Thunderfury bindings. The first few steps to the relic are fine in their own way and act as progression. Getting the mist felt great as well because you had to grind dungeons to get points to buy the item you need to upgrade it.

With Fates....oh boy. Anyone who knows about the Legendary Cloak quest in Wow knows that getting cloaks is a far easier task than grinding Atma. I can already see you ready to type things like how casual i am or don't bring up other games but SE needs to realize that making the drop rate of these atmas as bad as Invincible mount drop rate in Wow is just begging for backlash. For those who see no problem in the system, you either already have the Atma weapon phase done or just got through the hell that is the quest.

But drop rate or not, the worse part of it is...

[Parthmakeo]

If you want ALL of them, you have to do it for EACH AND EVERY CLASS! That means you have to grind the crap out of these Atmas more than once. The Atma system is shit and SE is not going to alter drops or make it Accessible to people who can't spend 20+ hours a day on a computer, slaving away to get all those weapons. We have lives outside the screen.
The step after Atma is fine since A) You are progressing and B) you can grind out what you need to purchase the item that you need to grind out on.

I already got that tomestone 100 weapon through no real effort but the fact stands. I would like to catch up to the others who have the atma weapons without slaving over 100+ fates in a zone just to get my weapon upgraded slightly.

All the previous mentions of an altered system are far better than what I could think of. Increase the drop rate, let the chance of dropping scale with the amount you do and so on...

[Parthmakeo]

If I want to have fun in a Video Game, the last thing I want to do is spend the majority of it smacking fates and running to them, hoping they are still up by the time i get there, and even getting gold...all to get nothing for it.

Whether you have it or not:
THE ATMA GRIND PORTION OF THIS GAME IS FAR WORSE THAN GRINDING OUT THE THUNDERFURY BRACERS OR ANYTHING IN WOW! At least with it's low drop rate, you only really need two items that are RNG heavy -_-

[Parthmakeo]

They need to remove the Atma step, alter it to compensate for it's low drop (Like 1-2 Atma for your wep instead) or downright change it where a certain FATE in each zone spawns that drops it 100% (I.E: Atma of Lion: The Roar of the land) for any and all who participate but make it either rarely spawn or put it on a spawns after X amount of fates have been cleared then reset. That way if no one gets it within 50 fates or so, at least they can get one fate that is 100% drop.

When you make the legendary cloak questline in Wow look far more fair, you know you did something wrong with the design. (And I really hated the ToT section back when it was relevant content...Runestones barely dropped for me...but at least it was ONCE A FUCKING WEEK!)

P.S: Please remove the word limit on forum posts SE >

[Darkstride]

P.S: Please remove the word limit on forum posts SE >

Edit your OP to bypass the word limit.

[Conando]

I have to agree on the insanity of it all. I'm doing it, but when I go for 12 hours, and all I have to show for it is 2 Atma...something's pretty wrong. Look, I understand Square-Enix wants people to keep playing, but something like this isn't the way to do it. The real issue is that this is a process that has no reward, just a change in weapon color. The actually reward comes from the more traditional grind that comes after with the books. I honestly have no idea what the dev team was thinking with this, and I'm pessimistic about them ever doing something about it.

[Holzmeister]

Yeah.. at first I thought it was going pretty smooth. I got ~7 Atmas within like ehh, 3 days? But then nothing would be dropped anymore. This is definitely now the way to go, SE. xD