atma drop rates

[dthmchnek]

Yes, it is a video game. Which by definition means it should be fun. Atma farming is not fun in any sense of the word.

That is a personal problem...

Actually, I can't make the decision not to play since I've already paid my 180-day subscription. A subscription I renewed pretty much right before they implemented Atma farming, back when I was still happy with the game. So I've already paid for at least a few more months. And yes, grinding for 120+ hours for one weapon is a job. A job that we are paying them to do.

Bad decision, not anyone else's fault.

Um, yes. They are a business, we are paying consumers. If a majority of the paying consumers are unhappy with a specific part of the service, Square Enix, as a business, is obligated to change it or risk losing said consumers. (Which, if you read these forums, is already happening.) This is how business works. Telling displeased customers to just "Deal with it," is a great way to make this game fail, just like the original version failed.

These forums do not show proof of the majority...

lolwat? Are you seriously saying that we should just accept every game as it is and never complain because it's art? How much of a sheep are you? That kind of thinking is what perpetuates the hundreds of mediocre games we constantly get year after year. So thank you for being the perfect example of what's wrong the game industry today.

Your personal Preference in what a videogame is... Your Personal Preference... This is not a government conspiracy, or a real world problem like your making it out to be, Why am I sheep? I do not understand your logic on this subject...

Again, key word you said there is "most." Meaning the majority of players are unhappy with this feature. So since you are the minority here, why don't you go play a different MMO with boring, time sink features, and let us have the game we've been enjoying since it was first released.

Unless you can pull figures somewhere else, then I will disagree with you.

[DarkLordCthulhu]

The players that defend the current state of obtaining atmas are the ones that got lucky and found them in a reasonable amount of time. Theyre going to respond with "QQ and put in the time if you want your atma." Thats the issue tho. Most of us have put in the time, some even more time than those who already finished that part of the quest, and have nothing to show for it. You cant just say "put in the time" cause there is NO GUARANTEE that even if you put in the time you will get the atmas. How is it okay for someone to find 12 atma pieces in say 400 FATE while others are at 800+ and yet to even be half way done with the quest? Explain to me how this is type of system is ok.

And dont tell me well theres other weapons you could get. Yes there is, but the relic/zodiac weapon updates are going to keep coming. A large majority of the community is paying for content (Animus/Novus) that SE is keeping us from enjoying by implementing a stupid RNG element to the atma stage.

No i dont want the relic upgrade to be handed to me. No I dont mind a grind. I want to work for my upgrade. Yesterday I FATE grinded for 4 hours after my daily roulette and have nothing to show for it. While a PLD that join my FATE party received his atma after 15 minutes of joining. How is something like that ok?

Some of yall need to get off your high horse and see how truly broken this system is.

[Teuciont]

Not challenging, not fun. No way to circumvent RNG like you could with Hamlet in 1.0. Relic was the perfect chanced to give people something to do with their FC outside of four weekly locked boss fights. No one in my FC wants to even do Atma, which is a real shame because Animus is a great chance to allow for some off hours content and FC bonding on a smaller scale.

[Cynfael]

The Atma system is poorly implemented as it stands. The very low drop rate makes it an RNG nightmare for some players.

As an example, I got 12 Atmas in about 700 FATEs. My friend has now completed nearly 900 FATEs and has been stuck at 7 Atmas since FATE #400 or so. It's tremendously bad luck, but there should be a sort of failsafe or alternative system that helps curtail outliers like that. If you've done 900 FATEs trying just to get your Zodiac weapon to the point where you can begin working on the 9 books for Animus, you probably deserve to be able to move on.

The developers are clearly concerned about antagonizing players who recently completed this step, so they won't change it yet, but you can see that they are learning from their mistake with Alexandrite. You can farm FATEs for it, but you can also acquire it in other ways, so you aren't 100% at the mercy of RNG.

[AmyNeudaiz]

Don't bother guys, he'll just keep coming up with the same things. He's completely blind to the double standard he puts on everyone who disagrees with him.
Every point you make is an attack against him while actual attacks (mostly attempts to discredit) he makes are "observations".

[YanDere]

Danjuro is the only word I can think of, reading the original post.
Danjuro. Google it, and see how far worse it is to get a Danjuro in FFXII.
There's an enjoyable side of the game, and there's a work-->reward based side, so if you want your shiny little novus, work on it for a month.

[Chrisbox]

I've gotten 8 atmas in the past two days, probably about 10-12 hours of farming. Drop rates aren't so bad for me, they seem better during daytime not night.

[MLew0032]

48 hours and counting.....

[Black91CRX]

I didn't have too much trouble with getting my Atma's. Alexandrite drops on the other hand are proving extremely frustrating.

[EricCartmenez]

Farmed 8 Atma in less about 6 hours or so. Got the other 4 just by doing fates I was near at the time. Got very lucky. Can only hope that my next two go so smoothly.