atma drop rates

[Hooliganhero]

I tried these methods thus far:
1) Farmed atma in North Shroud for about 15 hours over a week and a half before atma dropped.
2) Decided to switch zones every hour and after a total of 10 hours over 3 days got second atma.
3) Changed it up and followed the Japanese theory switching zones every hour according to the theory and after 8 hours on one long Saturday I got my third.
4) That was two weeks ago, and countless hours later I have not received my fourth atma.
At this point I decided I'm done with this game. I loved how this game was and I had high hopes. If atma is any indication of the direction this game is going than I cannot abide paying for such a time trap. So long SE. Off to ESO. I'm hoping they don't have the same kind of crap going on.

[AmyNeudaiz]

Another player quits because of Atma. Good job S.E.

[Entheogen]

Another player quits because of Atma. Good job S.E.

I too will be unsubing if this Atma grind is not changed, I've simply started running out of things to do and this is a RNG timesink worse then my desire to obtain all the EX mounts, I almost have every single minon, everything I have is 50 with a zenith or better,(6/9 leviathan? weapons not counting shields,) literally almost every single drop from T1-5. missing 3 pieces from T4, and healer pants, Tank helm, ( I believe I'm also 6/9 on allagan weapons.) I have every single craft at 50...which prior to the mastery books could make 2 star anything. I beta Tested the original 1.0 and I want this game to succeed so so badly.

(The only reason I haven't gotten obsessed with T6-9 is all the decent statics have already formed on my server.)

and it's not like I'm even doing that bad on the atma farm 5/12 with 3 spare atma of the crab, just going towards that 6th atma it's been atleast 40+ hours of seeing nothing now add in an additional 15min or so of atma grinding.

I'd played FFXI for many many years, and while this is bringing the grind back to relic weapons, the relic weapons in the game don't feel the same level of reward for the effort,

so hopefully something at E3 reveals something of interest otherwise I'm just done :/

[MilesSaintboroguh]

May as well unsub now because Square already said they have no immediate plans to boost Atma drop rates.

[Hooliganhero]

I too played FFXI for a long time. Battling the gods for 2 hours with my entire linkshell was pretty epic, and competing with other linkshells for HNMs like Behemoth or Nidhogg was fun as well. But the gear was also epic. SAM AF2 was awesome and well worth the time. Artemis Atma/Animus/Novus, not so much.

[Maero]

Or maybe even make it that atma drops are from enemy/boss Solo players fights. Would be alot more fair then it is now.
Some of us still put in countless hours to get atma while someone can get their full weapon in a day, such a bad design.
Really new content being introduced does not need to always be in fates, be a little more creative SE is all i am saying

[Gamma621]

The amount of people defending this atma system amazes me. Are you seriously saying that 10 hours of grinding for 1 of a 12-piece set to drop is acceptable?

You realize that people have jobs, families, and responsibilities right? Some of us don't have the luxury of playing for 14 hours every day like you. We're lucky to get in 2-3 hours a day. That means that farming a single atma piece can take 3-4 days of NOTHING but FATE grinding. Multiply that by twelve pieces, that's over a month and a half of NOTHING but FATE grinding to get a single weapon. Sounds like so much fun. But then again, games aren't supposed to be fun right? Nope, games are supposed to be about work right? People like you are the reason the game industry sucks today.

Also good thing this game isn't built around using multiple jobs requiring multiple weapons....oh wait. Anybody who mains more than one job, like me, is completely screwed. Just to get a weapon for 1 Healer, 1 DPS, and 1 Tank job could potentially take me until the end of this year.

And this is only the 3rd tier of a 5+ tier weapon that could potentially become one of the most powerful in the game. (Which they basically confirmed at the E3 conference today.)

I'm sorry, but this has nothing to do with skill, or dedication, or some test of will. This is a RANDOM system, that serves as nothing more than a time sink, and a way to keep money flowing in. People claiming they have 80+ atma pieces (without providing any proof and then fabricating statistics to make themselves feel special) need to rethink their life and what they're doing with it.

[dthmchnek]

The amount of people defending this atma system amazes me. Are you seriously saying that 10 hours of grinding for 1 of a 12-piece set to drop is acceptable?

Yes. Its just a videogame, take it with a grain of salt...

You realize that people have jobs, families, and responsibilities right? Some of us don't have the luxury of playing for 14 hours every day like you. We're lucky to get in 2-3 hours a day. That means that farming a single atma piece can take 3-4 days of NOTHING but FATE grinding. Multiply that by twelve pieces, that's over a month and a half of NOTHING but FATE grinding to get a single weapon. Sounds like so much fun. But then again, games aren't supposed to be fun right? Nope, games are supposed to be about work right? People like you are the reason the game industry sucks today.

Yes as do I, but the ones who make it seem like its a "job" are the ones who complain about it... Why? You made the decision to play the game and you can easily make the decision not to if it doesn't meet your expectations... Do you think you should have every say in a game's development because you spend your worthless piece of graphic paper or internet imaginary money on it? If you are upset about this then you make it seem like you do not know what you want and made a bad decision... That is the "problem" with the game industry... These folks are putting so much work, art and design and you still have to pay only 60 dollars and a 12 dollar sub fee... Its always been like this, and it needs to be much more than what it used to be now. Pretty much the industry needs to die because people do not appreciate it anymore and complain instead.

Also good thing this game isn't built around using multiple jobs requiring multiple weapons....oh wait. Anybody who mains more than one job, like me, is completely screwed. Just to get a weapon for 1 Healer, 1 DPS, and 1 Tank job could potentially take me until the end of this year.

And this is only the 3rd tier of a 5+ tier weapon that could potentially become one of the most powerful in the game. (Which they basically confirmed at the E3 conference today.)

I'm sorry, but this has nothing to do with skill, or dedication, or some test of will. This is a RANDOM system, that serves as nothing more than a time sink, and a way to keep money flowing in. People claiming they have 80+ atma pieces (without providing any proof and then fabricating statistics to make themselves feel special) need to rethink their life and what they're doing with it.

You can use your Pseudo-opinions on what the game should and should not be... Its still a personal problem you and most of these folks are having... Again its just a video game not a second job like you are actually making it out to be, take it with a grain of salt and move on.

[Gamma621]

Yes. Its just a videogame, take it with a grain of salt...

Yes, it is a video game. Which by definition means it should be fun. Atma farming is not fun in any sense of the word.

Yes as do I, but the ones who make it seem like its a "job" are the ones who complain about it... Why? You made the decision to play the game and you can easily make the decision not to if it doesn't meet your expectations...

Actually, I can't make the decision not to play since I've already paid my 180-day subscription. A subscription I renewed pretty much right before they implemented Atma farming, back when I was still happy with the game. So I've already paid for at least a few more months. And yes, grinding for 120+ hours for one weapon is a job. A job that we are paying them to do.

Do you think you should have every say in a game's development because you spend your worthless piece of graphic paper or internet imaginary money on it?

Um, yes. They are a business, we are paying consumers. If a majority of the paying consumers are unhappy with a specific part of the service, Square Enix, as a business, is obligated to change it or risk losing said consumers. (Which, if you read these forums, is already happening.) This is how business works. Telling displeased customers to just "Deal with it," is a great way to make this game fail, just like the original version failed.

If you are upset about this then you make it seem like you do not know what you want and made a bad decision... That is the "problem" with the game industry... These folks are putting so much work, art and design and you still have to pay only 60 dollars and a 12 dollar sub fee... Its always been like this, and it needs to be much more than what it used to be now. Pretty much the industry needs to die because people do not appreciate it anymore and complain instead.

lolwat? Are you seriously saying that we should just accept every game as it is and never complain because it's art? How much of a sheep are you? That kind of thinking is what perpetuates the hundreds of mediocre games we constantly get year after year. So thank you for being the perfect example of what's wrong the game industry today.

You can use your Pseudo-opinions on what the game should and should not be... Its still a personal problem you and most of these folks are having... Again its just a video game not a second job like you are actually making it out to be, take it with a grain of salt and move on.

Again, key word you said there is "most." Meaning the majority of players are unhappy with this feature. So since you are the minority here, why don't you go play a different MMO with boring, time sink features, and let us have the game we've been enjoying since it was first released.

[Duuude007]

Yes, it is a video game. Which by definition means it should be fun. Atma farming is not fun in any sense of the word.

I'm so sorry that you have everything you can earn from Moogle, Leviathan, SCOB, and this is all you have to look forward to.

Oh, wait, you haven't?

But I digress...

Me, I like it. And many others have expressed this shared agreement. Sure, some stuff I do not consider fun, but others do. I simply do other stuff and remain content.

Also: If you have something on paper that confirms "majority" or "most" for people who dislike it, fantastic. How about you share it with us.