atma drop rates

[Nateh]

Even though RNG does suck, here is a bit of probability.

To find out approximately how many FATEs you would have to do in order to be guaranteed an Atma (assuming the drop rate is 1%), first you have to find out the percentage chance of you NOT getting an Atma.

For example if you do 100 FATEs, the odds of you not getting an Atma is 0.99 (99%)^100 (or the number of FATEs attempted). This gives you 0.366. or a 36.6% chance of you not getting an Atma in the first 100 FATEs, or a 1 in 3 chance.

In order to reduce this chance of not getting an Atma close to 0, you would have to do 475 FATEs approximately per region to essentially be guaranteed an Atma (0.99^475 = 0.0084 or 0.8% chance). I certainly hope NO one is that unlucky to fall within that 0.8% chance, but if you guys want a basic number of FATEs you have to do, it will be 99.2% certain to be no more than 475 FATEs per region, or 5700 FATEs overall for all 12.

Now whether all that grinding is worth it is up to you.

[Calyanare]

The choices are work hard for your gear or obtain it so easily.

Nobody's asking for it to be easy, we just want the RNG removed or mitigated a bit so that anyone can complete it in about the same amount of time, with about the same amount of effort. You seriously think that your 12 hours to get one drop vs. someone else's 12 hours to get 12 drops is okay? If you ask me, those lucky people got theirs way too easily and didn't have to work enough, while at least an equal amount of people are having to work 10x more, which is way too much. There is a middle ground, I just wish they'd given it to us.

[Rosy]

What they SHOULD have done, is to make the first part of the quest, not the soul destroying fates, but a book like the 2nd part.

Do a quest line, get a book with a list of stuff to do which then leads you on to the 9 other books. No RNG, no frustration, lots of new stuff to do...win win situation.

[Undeadfire]

Nobody's asking for it to be easy, we just want the RNG removed or mitigated a bit so that anyone can complete it in about the same amount of time, with about the same amount of effort. You seriously think that your 12 hours to get one drop vs. someone else's 12 hours to get 12 drops is okay? If you ask me, those lucky people got theirs way too easily and didn't have to work enough, while at least an equal amount of people are having to work 10x more, which is way too much. There is a middle ground, I just wish they'd given it to us.

That's the whole point of it, SE doesn't want you to have it easy.

[Ultimatecalibur]

whats worse is the area is central la noscea...Sorry i mean middle la noscea and highest lvl fates are like 15 so i get crap for seals and dont even make enough gil to cover gear repair costs with 20% FC buff.

Central Thanalan is just as bad/possibly worse: fewer FATEs with most being ~9th level over a larger area.

[NintenPyjak64]

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It took me a little bit of research to find out the SMN Atma and the Animus don't give me the stats I want (and if upgrades continue in the same path, I'll never want a SMN relic past Zenith) which I can easily get from Leviathan book and the Book of Spades. When I start gearing up WHM with i100 crap, THEN I'll be farming Atmas, as to which really I don't care about the drop rate. I'll just set up a movie, listen to music while I farm, BS around with friends in Teamspeak, but I'll state again...

NOBODY IS HOLDING A GUN TO YOUR HEAD FORCING YOU TO GET YOUR ATMA. THERE'S ALTERNATIVES. If you don't like the grind, quit bitching and don't do it...

[Reoin05]

It took me a little bit of research to find out the SMN Atma and the Animus don't give me the stats I want (and if upgrades continue in the same path, I'll never want a SMN relic past Zenith) which I can easily get from Leviathan book and the Book of Spades. When I start gearing up WHM with i100 crap, THEN I'll be farming Atmas, as to which really I don't care about the drop rate. I'll just set up a movie, listen to music while I farm, BS around with friends in Teamspeak, but I'll state again...

NOBODY IS HOLDING A GUN TO YOUR HEAD FORCING YOU TO GET YOUR ATMA. THERE'S ALTERNATIVES. If you don't like the grind, quit bitching and don't do it...

LOL, take the nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to get your atma line from how many other threads? THE RELIC IS A MAIN PART OF THE GAME

[Dinh]

Nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to get your atma.


I haven't even started getting any Atmas and I think this system is awesome. It's actually making you WORK for your high level gear

I think you are mistaking "work" with "spending time", they are not the same. This is a tedious consumption of time with which we as players have no control over. I guess the players who got lucky and managed to snag an atma within 30 minutes in each zone worked a lot harder than the people spending 5 hours+ in each zone for atmas.

Now if there was a defined limit where we could see the proverbial light at the end of the tunnel, I'm sure people would be more receptive to this. (doing 50 fates in each zone for example) This however, is completely reliant on a dated RNG system that really just needs to die off.

[Riyos]

I haven't even started getting any Atmas and I think this system is awesome.

[oORoyalBlueOo]

Still, check the Bis for ur class
Ex:Mnk wep Sol is litterly useless secondery stats is :Acc and Det

And collecting atma deserves Cuz Novus can be changed from the second stat as u want so Sol .
OR if ur aiming to the highallagan wep thats another thing