atma drop rates

[Maero]

Skill? What skill? And how will this "skill" be judged? Who's to say someone's "skill" isn't as good as someone else's or even better than? If atma were based on "skill," we'd just have the same problem coming up: people complaining about other people being able to get theirs easier than other themselves.

The only way to "alleviate" acquiring atmas would be a guaranteed drop from something, much like everything else in this game. But then you'd have the problem of people complaining it's "too easy to get."

Either way, it's a lose-lose situation.

True but did you not read the rest of what i said, like having to complete certain trials or stuff.
True it would not fix the problem but would be far better then having to do oh so annoying fates

[ComradeQuestions]

I thought the OP's post had a great idea for them to implement though: increase the drop rate after a certain amount of fail. It'd still involve luck, it'd still involve pointless FATE grinding, but at least after some great amount of time there'd be PROGRESS towards something.

But the other thing that bugs me about the commentors here: the ATMA is essential! Yes, you can go do your Levi weapons and all that, but the Zenith is ONGOING, meaning if you don't get the ATMA/ANIMUS now, you'll be further left behind with future patches, and who knows what the weapons will be like in the future patches, so saying people should forgo an important questline is idiotic. And when all is said and done its a moot point anyways as its just a bad game mechanic. I'm all for including FATE's into the design of it, but there were countless ways to make the system more fun than what it is. This is a game afterall, we're supposed to be doing things that are fun, not mindlessly counting down the hours.

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

True but did you not read the rest of what i said, like having to complete certain trials or stuff.
True it would not fix the problem but would be far better then having to do oh so annoying fates

I did read everything you said, actually. Hence why I mentioned the part about people complaining that others got theirs easier than those who put in countless hours in the initial grind (this is on the assumption that drop rates increase in the next update). This is just like the echo update for HM primals. I know several people who hate that it happened because now people can just be handed their relics whereas some players had to put in the work to get past Titan HM without the buff.

[Tarta]

I think the easiest fix for the whole thing, that would make a lot of people happy, while still keeping the same system, is to chance it so instead of requiring Zenith equipped, it just requires completion of the quest "Up in Arms"

That way people could go through with alt classes to level them up, and get SOMETHING out of the fates, instead of just a mindless grind. Most of the people I have talked to would be okay with the grind (but not exactly thrilled with it) if they could at least get exp for another class out of it.

This. Super amazing idea. That way you can level other jobs. I am still baffled this wasn't implemented.

[Tulesha]

Hello, guize, I'd heard you have some problems with farming ATMA

[bibuba]

This fate grind system is too stupid ! i dont mind to grind Levi for mirror drop with rate of 0.5%, but at least i know its worth it. but running the whole map from N to S , W to E is kind of waste of time. i have 2 atmas, but i dont think im gonna do this anymore.

[Ashett]

Are people still whining about this, seriously? You figure that fans would have just given up by now.
As far as I'm concerned this grind is acceptable. Relic itself isn't required to complete the main game and is entirely optional. I've run around for 20 hours now trying to get atma and have only got 1 so far, but I'm not complaining.

This is almost the same as whining about FFXI's lvl up grind, only there was even worse cause you could actually lose everything you worked for.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Sure, the relic isn't needed "now", but good luck telling people that in a future patch or two when groups start to scrutinize (again) people over not having optimal gear.

[Snoopkimble]

Are people still whining about this, seriously? You figure that fans would have just given up by now.
As far as I'm concerned this grind is acceptable. Relic itself isn't required to complete the main game and is entirely optional. I've run around for 20 hours now trying to get atma and have only got 1 so far, but I'm not complaining.

This is almost the same as whining about FFXI's lvl up grind, only there was even worse cause you could actually lose everything you worked for.

whining?

I have every alt at 50 and everyone has a relic, at this pace it will take longer to do atma than all the other time spend gearing, leveling, and questing combined.
I dont mind grinding for a goal but I have not had one drop in 9 days, I play 5-6 hours a day. I have fellow fc member that have gotten them all in a day.
Then it is going to take doing another 30 plus dungens for tombs for one book.

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

This fate grind system is too stupid ! i dont mind to grind Levi for mirror drop with rate of 0.5%, but at least i know its worth it. but running the whole map from N to S , W to E is kind of waste of time. i have 2 atmas, but i dont think im gonna do this anymore.

So you'll farm for a mirror drop with a dismally low rate, yet atmas are a problem for you? Give me a break.

Then it is going to take doing another 30 plus dungens for tombs for one book.

Yeah. I love grinding for tombs. I get my shovel, go out into graveyards, maybe even dig up a dead body. Hell, sometimes I even get TOMEstones.