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    Zaels's Avatar
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    Aeryn Zael
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    Hilarious. People are seriously mad because they haven't gotten all their atmas THREE DAYS AFTER THE PATCH WENT LIVE.

    I for one, are certainly glad these kind of people are quitting.
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    Dragon Ninjai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    Hilarious. People are seriously mad because they haven't gotten all their atmas THREE DAYS AFTER THE PATCH WENT LIVE.

    I for one, are certainly glad these kind of people are quitting.
    The complaint isn't about not having it, it's about revolving around a RNG system where others do have it. If they had actually developed a process where noone had it then alot of people wouldn't be complaining.

    The Myth accrual is a long process, a 'sweat of your brow' process where you are rewarded based on your effort. Atmas, Mirrors, Unidentifieds, High Allagan is RNG not earned. Each of these on their own is RNG, grats to those that are lucky. The problem is that those are the only weapons possible to be obtained over i90 so nothing above i90 can be earned regardless of the bad luck one experiences.
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    Last edited by Ninjaii; 03-31-2014 at 04:36 AM.

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    Edwin Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    Hilarious. People are seriously mad because they haven't gotten all their atmas THREE DAYS AFTER THE PATCH WENT LIVE.

    I for one, are certainly glad these kind of people are quitting.
    They're complaining about how depended it is on RNG for first part of upgrading Relic from ilvl 90 to ilvl 100.

    Getting your Relic to Atma is not enough because once it is upgraded to Atma you will still have the Ilvl 90 stats until you begin the process of upgrading Atma to Animus through the Animus Books with each cost 1500 myth per book so the Relic stats can be ilvl 100 stats.

    Each book (costing 1500 myth) will only add +2 ??? stats to your Atma and once you complete all the Books the Atma will be changed into Animus.

    The upgrade process of Atma to Animus is about a week or more worth of work anyways since you are given task covering battle leves, Dungeons, FATES, and Monster kills per book.

    The RNG maybe increased each Major update until it hits a 100% drop rate later but we will have to wait and see.

    (For now I'm just waiting for a new class to play as since none of the current classes/jobs interests me so there no need for me to start running Atma upgrade and Animus upgrade to waste alway the 13,500 myth required for the ilvl 100 relic.)
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 03-31-2014 at 05:06 AM.

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    Eisen Gramul
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    How about a system that does have the RNG drops, but also a set where you automatically get it as a buffer?
    That way, we don't loose the thrill of surprise if it comes early, but people have a set list to work towards.
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    Shiki Tohno
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    How about a system that does have the RNG drops, but also a set where you automatically get it as a buffer?
    That way, we don't loose the thrill of surprise if it comes early, but people have a set list to work towards.
    That would be the ideal, common sense system most people are into. Granted this dev team is more or less the exact personification of the adage "Common sense is not always common." I personally feel like doing 100 FATEs in an area should be the demarcation point for such a system, but I am amendable to more than that. I've certainly done more than 100 in an area without a drop already, so that's not changing much for me. Either way, at least there is a failsafe for those of us not born under some magnanimous RNG star.
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    Ogawa Sanshirou
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    and when you spent these 30-60 hours of your lifetime for stupid grinding -
    lifetime that you won't ever get back -
    i want you to ask yourselves if that was really worth it.
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    Tyri Lockhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phe View Post
    and when you spent these 30-60 hours of your lifetime for stupid grinding -
    lifetime that you won't ever get back -
    i want you to ask yourselves if that was really worth it.
    You're spending your life on a game nevertheless - is it really worth it?
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    Ya 4 out of 12 is still progress.

    It can only be considered not a progress if you have not obtained 1 soul after 1 weeks time period.
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    Faye Saotome
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Ya 4 out of 12 is still progress.

    It can only be considered not a progress if you have not obtained 1 soul after 1 weeks time period.
    No, that isn't how it works. It just means your progressed has slowed, not that it has stopped.
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    Okazaki Masamune
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    Hyperion
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    Blacksmith Lv 80
    I dont see why people are complaining about atma progress, do it while you accomplish other things and then voila, it is no longer a chore and you get it in time. you have 3 weeks until you have the soldiery tomes to actually make the weapon useful (atma is ilvl 100 but holds no benefit). For an example, I got the time to do my hildibrand quest line which took me to upper la noscea, popped in a random fate, Boom got my atma of lion.

    You are not supposed to grind your brains out on these fates instead of do other content, it is an over time activity. If you are complaining about wasting time you should reevaluate how you're spending it in a) a forum like this and b) any video game what so ever (if you're not getting paid)
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