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    Pibz's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prototype909 View Post
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    I don't... just.. what?!
    "Your chances of getting Atma after 3 FATEs and 3000 FATEs are the exact same."
    Is this your understanding of statistics? So if you roll a dice a 1000 times you'll have the same chance of getting a 1(or whatever the number) as you would on just 2 rolls?... I don't even know what to say to this.

    "There's no progression, no sense that you're actually doing anything, just mindlessly pushing forward until you get lucky." Except when you get an item and then another(you get the point), and realize you're progressing?

    It's one thing not to like depending on luck or even not liking to grind fates, but this points just don't make any sense.

    Also your example says that the drop is controlled by some entity that based on no previous fixed rules determines whether you get it or not as if on the mere whim of his mood- when in fact it is controlled by a fixed chance. There's a difference.

    Again bottom line, this content is made for people who like having something to do with no weekly/daily restrictions and that takes a long time spent to achieve, some of these people will even be getting more than 1 of those weapons. People who have been asking for this for quite a while.
    This piece of content does not block you from any other, the weapon itself has 2 others on the same range of power, and 2 others on a higher range of power.
    So-- you don't have to do it. Stop the drama please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pibz View Post
    I don't... just.. what?!
    "Your chances of getting Atma after 3 FATEs and 3000 FATEs are the exact same."
    Is this your understanding of statistics? So if you roll a dice a 1000 times you'll have the same chance of getting a 1(or whatever the number) as you would on just 2 rolls?... I don't even know what to say to this.
    There's no progress because each time you try to get an Atma, you have the same chance of getting an Atma.

    If you try 3000 tries, you have a better chance of getting what you because you are trying more often. But you're not making progress, because nothing you are doing is improving the chance of getting an Atma on the next try.

    WoW had this problem years ago, and they fixed it. Every time you failed to get what you want, the odds you would get what you wanted next time improved. So if the drop was 1%, next time it would be 1.1%, then 1.2%, etc. There is progress even if you're unlucky.
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    Za'nder Mist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pibz View Post
    I don't... just.. what?!
    "Your chances of getting Atma after 3 FATEs and 3000 FATEs are the exact same."
    Is this your understanding of statistics? So if you roll a dice a 1000 times you'll have the same chance of getting a 1(or whatever the number) as you would on just 2 rolls?... I don't even know what to say to this.
    Actually I think he's right. You're not rolling the same dice, but 3000 dice. So your "chance" would always be 1/6. What you do get is more tries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZanderMist View Post
    Actually I think he's right. You're not rolling the same dice, but 3000 dice. So your "chance" would always be 1/6. What you do get is more tries.
    Edit:
    Ah nevermind thought you were agreeing with the other guy xD
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    Last edited by Pibz; 03-30-2014 at 10:07 PM.