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  1. #61
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    YeaniNah's Avatar
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    Yeani Sky
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Nothing is hard, the main complaints are no one asked for FATE grinding.

    No one.
    weird alot of people ask for NM to farm ...SE put fate boss as NM but everyone can hit it and get GOLD/Silver/Bronze . and if people want NM cos they want the LOOT. But what piss people off im sure ...in 11 people were farming NM not letting anyone have a chance to kill it once and to be the only one to get it .....but on Fate everyone can hit it and have a chance to get the items. Some just cant share or just greedy.
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  2. #62
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    Biuma Arvinda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prototype909 View Post
    There's a big difference between instant gratification and a goal which you can actually progress towards.

    (...)

    Your chances of getting Atma after 3 FATEs and 3000 FATEs are the exact same. There's no progression, no sense that you're actually doing anything, just mindlessly pushing forward until you get lucky. That's why people don't like it.
    Exactly. Also, what exacerbates this issue is that doing low-level FATEs has to be the most mind-numbing, boring thing ever. People complained about FATEs required for CT and Beastman dailies being tied into quests, because, let's face it: hardly anybody here actually likes doing FATEs.

    Also note how few people actually FATE grinded when they improved dungeon XP in 2.1.

    Why? Because FATEs are terribly boring.
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  3. #63
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    Sheer Slayne
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    Too much grinding, not enough grinding, random drop chances, no random drop chances... At the end of the day, someone's going to make a scene about how they're leaving because they didn't get what they like.
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  4. #64
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    Jonnara Nara
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prototype909 View Post
    There's a big difference between instant gratification and a goal which you can actually progress towards.

    Example -

    A) You're on a job and you're told once you wash 1000 dishes you can leave for the day

    B) You're on a job and you're told that you'll randomly be allowed to leave whenever your supervisor feels like it

    Your chances of getting Atma after 3 FATEs and 3000 FATEs are the exact same. There's no progression, no sense that you're actually doing anything, just mindlessly pushing forward until you get lucky. That's why people don't like it. There's a big disconnect between checking my achievement progress and seeing that I need 180 or so more instances to get my Lion mount (Progress with a clear goal) and me running into FATEs without any sense of when I'll be finished if ever.
    They get a chance to troll people now so they are happy to ignore the points you posted above.
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  5. #65
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    Eardstapa's Avatar
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    Edward Volcdegen
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    Adamantoise
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by agroyboy View Post
    Yea I finally stuck it out. Took maybe 15 to 16 hours. But it's done. Got mine yesterday.
    12 hours later, I still only have 4 Atmas. Gotta love it.
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  6. #66
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    Thank you SE for giving 'Epic Weapons' back their original meaning. ;]
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  7. #67
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    Edward Volcdegen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zwipe View Post
    Thank you SE for giving 'Epic Weapons' back their original meaning. ;]
    Epic? Sure, they look epic, but having the same stats as our Zenith weapons hardly qualifies as epic (All jest mate, all jest.)
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zwipe View Post
    Thank you SE for giving 'Epic Weapons' back their original meaning. ;]
    Because nothing says epic like clearing level 3 FATEs.
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  9. #69
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    where is the epic in the FATE-Farm? did you accomplish anything grand? did you feel like you have done something challenging? non please seriously tell me... because soo far, i have put my brain next to me on my desk and simply fall the train while spamming the same skill over and over and over and over. nothing grand, nothing epic, nothing...fun. it's a plain bashing like in the corean game.

    people asking for grind a la FF11 must remember the game never did pass the 600.000 sub... do we want to make of FF14 a niche game only for please the old veteran uncapable to evolve or make a new game that will shine and bring fun and new way? no because last time i did check i was playing FF14 ARR not FF11-2
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  10. #70
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    people asking for grind a la FF11 must remember the game never did pass the 600.000 sub...
    This has to do with what? Yoshi himself admitted FFXIV only has 500,000 unique logins world wide with Dragon Quest X (JP only) having half that, so um...what's your point? XIV is the one of the most casual mmos out there and it's not even beating TERA in terms of subs.

    And Tera is Freemium (you won't get very far playing 'F2P'.) Last you checked this wasn't XI-2, good for you, no one said that. I don't recall current 2.x being in Vanadiel either.

    Actually, I noticed a lot of people who hate XI or never even played it (or played till level 5 and quit) accusing everyone wanting XI-2, guess what Silent? You're playing Miqote, redesign of Mithra that originated in FFXI as a playable race.

    :x
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    Last edited by Tupsi; 03-30-2014 at 09:50 AM.

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